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  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    If you think about it, it makes you mad. Life is rapidly going back to Victorian times and we're all sitting here letting it.
  • GreyQueen
    GreyQueen Posts: 13,008 Forumite
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    craigywv wrote: »
    Greyqueen I using sons iPad and think I have pressed spam when scrolling down reading your post sorry this thing should come with a winder handle like the old fashioned pencil sharpeners so sorry if it has been reported as spam I pressed it again and it said not spam ............sorry don't no wat I have done x
    :) Don't sorry about it, pet, I'm sure whoever runs the forum won't just take my username out the back and delete it.

    Someone did the same thing once before and posted about it and nothing perceptable happened to the thread, so be calm and carry on. ;)

    Hmmmm, interesting article on ZH right now The Big Reset by the same guy that jk0 mentioned upthread, as in he'd bought his book. Fascinating to hear about the manipulations of the price of gold over the past few decades. As in manipulating downwards, not upwards.

    I did economics as a schoolgirl back in the late seventies and knew we were off the gold standard but hadn't really thought through why this is important. Because if you have a gold standard, you're backing your currency with something which cannot be created by anything known to science, and is only added to by slow recovery from deep in the bowels of the earth.

    The gold standard acts as a brake on the currency, meaning that you cannot just conjure it out of thin air and inflate the prices of everything like crazy and degrade people's savings willy-nilly.

    Imagine how much better off most of us would be if you could buy a house for about 3.5 times your annual salary? In the early nineties, one of my pals bought a 2 bed Edwardian terrace here for £40k. It wasn't a fixer-upper, that was the going rate for a tidy little house in good order. Add 10 years and add £100K to that price. And upwards, now.

    Utter insanity.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
  • Just popping in to say that the water cannon issue is touched on in this episode of the Keiser report:
    http://rt.com/shows/keiser-report/episode-554-max-keiser-139/
    with some interesting discussion of NHS privatisation in the second half if anybody is interested.
  • haven't posted for a while, but still reading and keeping up to date with the posts...


    When I seen it in the news, that the government said there is an upturn and things are starting to look brighter.... The colour of the words coming out of my gob to the tv were the bluest you could imagine!!!!!


    IMO they are just moving numbers around to make themselves start looking good for the lead up to the elections..


    They must think we are stupid, and believe everything they say!!!


    How can the economy be growing, when people are just cutting back and back???


    People will not forget this 'depression' and will def learn by it..




    The previous dank of England guy did say it would take about 10 years for any signs of true recovery ( so that would make it approx. 2018) but I think its that amount of time for us to get used to the state of the economy?
    Work to live= not live to work
  • Just seen this


    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/prove-it--bank-blocking-customers-from-making-large-withdrawals-without--evidence--of-spending-need-222425920.html


    finance crime my ar$$e


    What do you think?? is this the start of controlling how much all banks will give cash over the counter? Do you foresee something in the near future, to try and stop a bank run?? and using the crime thing as smoke screen?
    Work to live= not live to work
  • BigMummaF
    BigMummaF Posts: 4,281 Forumite
    DawnW wrote: »
    The trouble is, the scumbags have the support of large sections of the media, and when people are told that it is all the fault of benefits claimants / immigrants / choose your own target group unfortunately many do seem to believe them, and the accompanying lie that there is no alternative tothe unfair policies we are seeing :(

    Of course, in Scotland people have always had more sense, and they don't have much support :D. Unfortunately though it is different in the south of England where I live :mad: But we certainly don't all vote for them down here either! I fact if more people bothered to use their vote, they would probably be out on their ear.

    I'm a southerner too & cannot believe the blewz (as in blew it all out the ball-park) keep getting in :mad: It was only the other night--in that drowsy not-quite-asleep stage--that I wondered what would happen if the Populous did all band together & deliberately spoil their voting papers with None of the Above scribbled in bright orange crayon across the candidates :p
    Trouble is--around here--there would probably be enough idiots who "go up to Town" every day to still outnumber us :o


    mardatha wrote: »
    If you think about it, it makes you mad. Life is rapidly going back to Victorian times and we're all sitting here letting it.

    I've often tried to fathom how other countries motivate their inhabitants to stand up & be counted. That's not to say I agree with the reasons for every protest, just intrigued how you go about organizing such an event.

    For years we (mainly No2 Offspring & I) have discussed the prospects of a People's Revolution but wouldn't know the postcodes to send out the invites :D
    Full time Carer for Mum; harassed mother of three;
    loving & loved by two 4-legged babies.

  • GreyQueen
    GreyQueen Posts: 13,008 Forumite
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    :D I guess that there are millions of improperly programmed citizens out there. Y'know, us yellers at radios and tellies, we who will insist on believing the evidence of our own eyes, ears, wallets, etc.

    At the beginning of April my rent will go up. The % increase for council rents is instructed by central government. It isn't yet known. It has been 8%, give or take a fraction, for the last several years. My rent has gone up 50% in the past 7 years. Whatever they sic on me in two months' time will have to be paid out of an income which is static, as have all the other increases.

    I can cover it. I won't be out on my ear. But it's money which can't be spent elsewhere and means that somewhere, several other businesses aren't going to get that money. Such as the little indy holiday company I buy a break from every few years. There will be no holibob in 2014 beyond an excursion or two. Probably by pushbike with a flask and sarnies.

    Now I'm a minnow in economic terms, totally small fry. But I will be making dozens of decisions each month about where my money goes. And tens of millions of other minnows will be doing the same thing. And our prosperity, or lack of it, will be the breaking of other peoples' livilhoods and businesses.:(
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
  • BigMummaF
    BigMummaF Posts: 4,281 Forumite
    You can't believe the reports of "1000s of job vacancies" either, as it has been proved many of the ads on the J0bCentres' own website are months out of date, totally misleading & being advertised all over the country.

    Please, can we not mention Benefits.. I will agree that some (0.7% was the latest figure I heard) know how to work the system but many, many more are only trying to survive--not Live--SURVIVE the evils of the nation-wide monetary predicament we are all in.. well.. when I say 'all'.. I mean us lot here :o
    Full time Carer for Mum; harassed mother of three;
    loving & loved by two 4-legged babies.

  • GreyQueen
    GreyQueen Posts: 13,008 Forumite
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    :( Benefits aren't too high, it's wages that are too low. And you can flip from employed to unemployed in the blink of an eye.

    One of my pals is facing loss of a well-paid job at the moment - worrying times.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
  • ginnyknit
    ginnyknit Posts: 3,718 Forumite
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    I have read the books by Helen Forrester about Liverpool in the Great Depression and found it all too real, children sleeping on old doors covered only by old coats - Paul O Grady has just done a charity ad and talks about children NOW in this country with old coats as bedding and it breaks my heart. we are back in Victorian times already and it saddens me to think of children cold and hungry. Parents going without food so the children can eat is wrong in this day and age. The ad has just come on as I am writing this, its save the children.

    Guard every penny you have guys, its going to be a hard road for all of us as there are more cuts to come.

    Googled a recipe called chocolate porridge cake so am going to try that. It sounds cheap to make though I have no cocoa am going to try cheap drinking chocolate. My arsenal of budget recipes grows - anything to relieve the monotiny. Trouble is Hubbys appetite is very poor so am having to make tempting things everyday, but Jamie Oliver is proving to be a godsend with his cheap recipes which I make even cheaper.

    Val McDermid used to come in my Cs a few years ago although I didnt know who she was at the time. She has a wicked sense of humour and its a lovely lady but obviously very sensible as she shops in Cs's :D
    Clearing the junk to travel light
    Saving every single penny.
    I will get my caravan
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