Preparedness for when

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GreyQueen wrote: »

I guess if you've consistently been employed at a multiple of x 4 or above the national average wage, it's easy to assume that this will always be the case and that poverty is something which happens to others.

Someone with that much income (well over £100,000), really should have a fair chunk of savings, against unemployment, illness, etc.

It's chucking it down here atm and still nearly dark

It was raining heavily round here, earlier, but it wasn't dark.

It's now stopped raining, and is even sunny.

My LR is 60f, with no heating on at all, today.

EDIT: It's overcast again.

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It's raining again.

pineapple

GreyQueen wrote: »

you mean not everyone uses the shallow drawers under their sofa to store tinned sardines?!

Not to mention the ones under the bed. Anyone coming to stay chez pineapple is sorted for a midnight snack!

pineapple

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

Totally agree FUDDLE, I can't understand anyone wanting a trial run just to see if things worked out with what they already have.

Having wandered across a few conspiracy sites in my time I can say without doubt there is a small element that actually wants the worst to happen. They get a buzz thinking about it and it adds interest to their humdrum lives but they haven't a clue what the reality would be like. Most wont have lived in a war zone, gone hungry, suffered for lack of medical care or clean water etc etc. Nor have they watched loved ones die due to the absence of things they currently take for granted.
They live in a la la world where they personally will come out fine and 'pressing the reset button' will magically transform their lives and all the world's problems. Instantly

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Just been looking at that Yellowstone Portable Gas Stove, linked to by JKO in post 17391.

It's the first I've seen, which gives a gas consumption rate.

Assuming 150g/h is the rate on full power, that give almost 1.5 hours per 220g cannister, on maximum heat setting.

The advert also says the heat capacity is 6982 BTU.

That's 2.045726 kW.

Would that be kWhs :huh:

Wyre

Craigywv - I hope you and your loved ones are safe, dry and comfortable.

jk0

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Just been looking at that Yellowstone Portable Gas Stove, linked to by JKO in post 17391.

It's the first I've seen, which gives a gas consumption rate.

Assuming 150g/h is the rate on full power, that give almost 1.5 hours per 220g cannister, on maximum heat setting.

The advert also says the heat capacity is 6982 BTU.

That's 2.045726 kW.

Would that be kWhs :huh:

If it can produce 2.045726 kW for 1.5 hours, that's 3.068589 kWhs isn't it.

Butterfly_Brain

Craigywv stay safe x

We have just had a really nasty hail storm with thunder and lightening that lasted for over half an hour, it is still very windy and doesn't look like it is going to let up any time soon

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Actually, I was wanting to compare the cost of running it, to my household supply.

That figure of c 3kWh will do for the calculation

At £1 per cylinder, we are talking 33p per kWh.

Oh dear.

Checking my last bill, I see that, including the Standing Charge, I was paying 9.8p per kWh.

That means the camping stove costs about 3.37 times as much to run, as a mains gas cooker.

Still, needs must when the devil drives.

RAS

Perplexed_Pineapple wrote: »

I. The population is now about 65 million, and we are even more heavily dependent on imports. There is a discussion of food security here: http://archive.defra.gov.uk/evidence/economics/foodfarm/reports/documents/foodsecurity.pdf

Roughly the same era but with a different take http://transitionculture.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/CanBritain.pdf

Simon Fairlie updated this in his book "Meat".

Basically the calories are there but the choice may be limited.

And there is not a lot spare for either oil-plants or extra timber for fuel.