Preparedness for when

GreyQueen

jk0 wrote: »

Have you guys seen this report about Fukushima?

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-apocalypse-fuel-removal-598/

I think that certainly for the Japanese people, the S is now a lot closer to the F.

I've been following this on Zero Hedge, they've been on it constantly.

Funny how the mainstream media isn't covering something of this magnitude, isn't it?

Japan's islands have about the same area as the UK. Their population is twice that if the UK, and the Japanese archipeligo is more difficult terrain than ours and some parts aren't suitable for habitation.

Tokyo Bay sits on the junction of 4 tectonic plates which are constantly grinding against each other. This is one of the world's most seismically active places. Tokyo (formerly Edo) has been destroyed many times by fires following earthquakes. But it was never a mega-city of 40 million people. Propbably one of the least-sane places on Earth to put nuclear plants.

Think about evacuating 40 million people for a moment. That's like evacuating two out of three Brits. There isn't room to displace so many inside Japan itself, where the heck will they go?

A few years ago I read a book about earthquakes and it had a lot about Tokyo and the risks it runs daily. The interviewer was talking to the people who run the stock exchange (the Nikkei) and asking what their back-up plans were if the building housing the computers is damaged by and earthquake and the exchange goes down.

He was expecting to be told that their back-up was well outside the city. He found that it was in the next building over. Ye gods and little fishes, if the Nikkei went down, the chaos would flash around the stock markets in seconds all across the world.

And people wonder why I wear the old tin hat?

daz378

jko and others have mentioned the dangers fukishima might be worth stocking up on iodine supplements and have been guilty in the past off buying plastic storage boxes , will tryto avoid this in future...... be careful to research on a personal level if you need to take iodine

pineapple

jk0 wrote: »

Have you guys seen this report about Fukushima?

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-apocalypse-fuel-removal-598/

I think that certainly for the Japanese people, the S is now a lot closer to the F.

I have a feeling we will all be paying the price sooner or later. There is still a big dispute over the deaths from Chernobyl. Who knows - one of the reasons for the continuing increase in cancer rates may be due to the increase in radiation.
Meanwhile reportedly the US response to Fukushima was to raise the 'safe' radiation level! Nothing to see here peeps, move along...
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/01/governments-worldwide-raise-acceptable-radiation-levels-based-upon-politics-not-science.html
But it's all OK according to Forbes and their bizarre banana comparison!!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/08/10/the-fukushima-radiation-leak-is-equal-to-76-million-bananas/
I'm a bit careful now of what canned fish I buy and where from though probably it's pointless. Maybe I should stick with the cup-a-soup after all! :rotfl:
I remember a little inconsequential newspaper paragraph years ago (I think it was the Guardian). It should have been headline news but one could easily miss it. A shipment of dried milk from the UK had been rejected for export because of contamination. That was my lightbulb moment. Along with much of the UK I had been entered into the 'will you suffer the consequences of Chernobyl?' lottery

GreyQueen

Pineapple, I was living on the eastern side of Scotland when Chernobyl happened.

It concentrates the mind wonderfully when you're under instruction not to drink the milk and not to go out in the rain because it's radioactive.

And that was official state warnings, not some tin-hat idea off the web. Although with every day which passes, the tin-hatters look more and more like the sane ones, don't you think?

*Adjusts own tin hat to rakish angle and sips her tea thoughtfully.*

mardatha

Farms up here couldn't sell or export hill sheep for years after Chernobyl, and every summer including this one, we have parties of their schoolkids over for a healthy holiday break.
I've got it (nuclear accidents) way down my list of preps because I don't know what you can do that would work, I wouldn't know what to do with iodine even if I had it. I thought you couldn't get it any more? Terrific on cuts though
Off out soon for dried goods for the stash.

FairyPrincessk

I'm of a similar mind Mar--there isn't much you can do in a nuclear accident/attack. My dad had one of the suits for work--the nuclear/biohazard attack suits as he was an engineer for the department of defense. He had to have the fit checked twice a year and there were all sorts of rules you were supposed to know. Such as, if you're exposed to radiation you should take a shower and wash your hair as soon as possible but not use any conditioner or creams as they can actually help bind the radioactive particles to the body. I asked him, wouldn't the water be radioactive, particularly if it came from a reservoir? He shrugged.

Cheapskate

Morning chaps & chapesses

DH appears to have had a LBM - I've grown some spuds in various places in the garden, and he dug over some other beds a while ago - now's he's said 'why don't we grow more edible plants?' This from a bloke who's always sneered at anything resembling the Good Life or prepping - he thinks it's all his own idea, of course - bless! :rotfl:

I've been running down my freezer stocks (some pretty ancient stuff in there) ready to re-stock come September when the kids are back to school. I'm also going to add dried soups/savoury rice/pasta, etc., mainly for something fairly instant and tasty - thinking if we had to rely on foraging or little fresh food, at least these would have some taste.

Also need to buy/borrow a new scanner, as our previous (fantastic) one wouldn't talk to the new pc we bought a few years ago - and I downloaded every version of the software known to geekdom! :mad: so I can do my recent documents.

Have read some of the links you've all posted, lots of food for thought, thank you!

A xo

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CHEAPY make sure you keep in some instant hot chocolate, Mr.Ts was under 50p last time I got some. On those days when the sun is missing and everything is grey you'll be glad of something comforting that doesn't cost several limbs, and so will the kiddlers, Cheers Lyn xxx.

pineapple

mardatha wrote: »

Farms up here couldn't sell or export hill sheep for years after Chernobyl, and every summer including this one, we have parties of their schoolkids over for a healthy holiday break.
I've got it (nuclear accidents) way down my list of preps because I don't know what you can do that would work, I wouldn't know what to do with iodine even if I had it. I thought you couldn't get it any more? Terrific on cuts though

You can get potassium iodide pills (to protect the thyroid) on Amazon. Just after Fukushima it was very difficult to find! Also on Amazon you can get povidone iodine for dabbing on skin (and general first aid).
Some supplements are also reckoned to help. I posted a load of links way back - will try to dig them out. But yes one tends to wonder if it is all a bit pointless anyway.

I believe the last farming restrictions were removed in 2012 but imo the government speak 'very low risk' does not mean 'no extra risk'.
Straight from the script of Yes Minister:
'Taking the risk assessment into account, the conclusion of the review was that the current controls in England and Wales were no longer proportionate to the very low risk. They were also ineffective in further minimising the already low doses and removing controls would not compromise consumer safety. Furthermore, the very low risk showed that intervention was no longer required to comply with Council Directive 96/29/Euratom requirements for cases of lasting exposure'.
http://www.food.gov.uk/science/research/radiologicalresearch/radiosurv/chernobyl/

It simply wasn't practical either to restrict the whole of the UK at the time or keep restrictions going indefinitely.

Cheapskate

Lyn, thanks for that tip - and as luck would have it I found an unused voucher for said shop, enough to buy 3 lots of hot choc! Winter without chocolate in any form is enough to send one to the funny farm IMO!

A xo