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  • elaine241 wrote: »
    Lillibet please can you let me know if your library manages to get hold of The Survivors? My library has said it is not available, if yours manages to get it I can quote the ISBN no. and library it came from hopefully I will get to read it once you return it!

    I have a feeling they looked for Survivors by James Wesley Rawles which I dont think will be available, is this the book you have asked for or is there a differnt one called The Survivors?

    I am currently reading John Birminghams Without Warning, where USA population disappears in an instant when a "cloud" covers it. Only just getting into it but it tells the tale of those outside the USA and how the world starts to fall apart without it, told from the perspective of several different indivuals.


    Hi elaine,
    I ordered the DVD set rather than the book - got a message last night to say it is ready for collection:T
    :j[DFW Nerd club #1142 Proud to be dealing with my debt:TDMP start date April 2012. Amount £21862:eek:April 2013 = £20414:T April 2014 = £11000 :TApril 2015 = £9500 :T April 2016 = £7200:T
    DECEMBER 2016 - Due to moving house/down-sizing NO MORTGAGE; NO OVERDRAFT; NO DEBTS; NO CREDIT CARDS; NO STORE-CARDS; NO LOANS = FREEDOM:j:j:beer::j:j:T:T
  • daz378
    daz378 Posts: 1,051 Forumite
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    yes ive also studied economics in the past , the system is built on trust and a lot of that has been eroded since the crash, the only thing we can hope
    is that TPTB have a vested interest in keeping things ticking over....an angry populace maybe an unproductive populace....thomas Malthus warned governments decades ago about the dangers of unrestrained population growth.......google trade wars solar panels between germany and china is his the start of the fight for scarce resources?
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 16 May 2013 at 11:24AM
    I still think that keeping manual/old fashioned skills alive and working is the best insurance policy that we can have, as inevitable changes happen in the future and life becomes very unpredictable. The prospect of population die back for whatever reason be it over population of the planet (pre the industrial revolution the UK population was around 6 million and had been static for centuries, now we are supporting over 70 million!!!!!!!) peak oil, climate change - all three possibly is very, very daunting but to have the best chance of making it through the really tough times, if you know how to forage, garden if you can, preserve, use herbs medicinally, make shelters, make rush lights and tallow candles, cook on open fires, find clean water, cure hides, spin, weave, work flint/bone/wood, you'll have a much better chance than most and maybe be useful enough to justify your continued existence when the chips are down, it's a way off, but probably out there somewhere, and I for one want every chance of a future that I can get!!! Cheers Lyn xxx.
  • D&DD
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    ooh thanks Lyn what a good idea will make some later.
    I found this as well http://www.justvegetablerecipes.com/inxspi.html

    I love their sites so many cracking recipes on there..

    Just got back from walking Rosie and was too hot today :rotfl:

    Annie it's looking like a wonderful year for foraging!!! Sloes and damsons look so healthy and just checked out the pears and plums and they're loaded :j:j As are the apples..I'll let you know when they're ready and pack a picnic :D

    Righto peeps getting too comfy must get going in the garden see you all later XX
  • Rosetta92
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    D&#8517 wrote: »
    Annie it's looking like a wonderful year for foraging!!! Sloes and damsons look so healthy and just checked out the pears and plums and they're loaded :j:j As are the apples..I'll let you know when they're ready and pack a picnic :D

    Righto peeps getting too comfy must get going in the garden see you all later XX

    Glad the foraging signs are good. I just bought Alys Fowlers book so looking for a chance to learn & practice.

    On a separate note have you folks seen this:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/16/venezuela-toilet-paper-shortage-50m :eek::eek:

    Just as well I got another nine rolls on yesterday's delivery :)

    Have a good day everyone.

    R
  • GreyQueen
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    :pRe the Venzuela t.p. shortage, is anyone taking up a collection? I could spare them a 10-pack...............:rotfl:

    Of course, the end result will be that an entire generation will now suffer t.p. shortage anxiety issues and hoard the stuff once it does come back into the shops.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
  • midnight_express
    midnight_express Posts: 1,272 Forumite
    Tesco have nouvelle toilet paper at 2.50 for nine rolls.
  • herbily
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    GreyQueen wrote: »
    :pRe the Venzuela t.p. shortage, is anyone taking up a collection? I could spare them a 10-pack...............:rotfl:

    Of course, the end result will be that an entire generation will now suffer t.p. shortage anxiety issues and hoard the stuff once it does come back into the shops.
    Maybe in a past life I lived somewhere which once had a t.p. shortage... I'm feeling very nervous after reading that article, I'm going to have to go buy some more tomorrow!
  • armyknife
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    GreyQueen wrote: »
    :eek: Here's a thing.................


    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-05-15/no-bank-deposits-will-be-spared-confiscation

    I kinda knew this anyways but it's shocking to see it spelled out in black and white.

    That bloke needs to buy a new keyboard, his Caps Lock is sticking.


    Why do people do that, I don't think it adds anything to validity of an item.
  • maryb
    maryb Posts: 4,716 Forumite
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    GQ The Long Emergency is one of the books that most traumatised me when I first heard about Peak Oil. I had a sudden realisation that, for the most part, we effectively eat fossil fuel. As well as drinking fossil water as aquifers are steadily depleted. Although if this summer turns out like last year (which some forecasters are predicting, apparently) we won't need to worry about the aquifers in this country!!
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
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