How should I go about asking permission for a second job? read before posting.

BrettMorganxD

I have alot of thing I want, and I do do overtime at my current job but would like a side job of around 20 hours per week.

My contract says not to take on a second job without companys expressed consent.

But atm I am saving for a house deposit, taking driving lessons then i will need a car insurance tax etc etc plus all living costs.

how should i go about asking the area manager as it is him making decisions not the line manager.

As long as it does not affect your work do companys usually object

19lottie82

Brett, you've asked this before

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3853643

BrettMorganxD

19lottie82 wrote: »

Brett, you've asked this before

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3853643

i knew someone would post dig.

that is because no good answers were given. This question is about how to ask as in what to say

DVardysShadow

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

i knew someone would post dig.

that is because no good answers were given. This question is about how to ask as in what to say

If you had just bumped your old thread with the question "how to ask as in what to say", no one will have batted an eyelid. Now you have told everyone their answers were no good.

Acc72

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

that is because no good answers were given.

This question is about how to ask as in what to say

I have just had a look at the previous thread and the answers given were useful.

It might help if you tell us what answer you want .......

KiKi

We don't need to 'post dig', Brett. You post so many threads, with so many questions and often not listening to the answers, that they're quite memorable.

KiKi

SunnySusie

Looking through the old thread I can see some very unhelpful and patronising posts. I don't see why this topic is particularly undeserving of discussion!

Anyway, self appointed forum police aside, I'll chip in with my own thoughts.

The last placed I worked in had this clause in, but it was not enforced and seemed like it was just in there for historical reasons (ie a past HR jobsworth thought it was necessary to cover their but). A number of my colleagues openly had second incomes and in one case they went full time to the other job!!

OP could talk to other colleagues to see if they have a second job. Sound out if the HR department is particularly prescriptive in enforcement. In my current role HR are fairly easy going and would only step in if a problem arose from the situation.

And I guess a question for a lawyer is, how enforceable is this anyway? Don't we have a right to work? Is it similar to the unenforceable contracts that state you can't go and work for a competitor (which would kill a free employment market instantly if enforceable).

And finally, what is the nature of your role? In my position they would need a good reason to fire me as it would give them a big recruitment headache. I earn extra income in my own time and consider this my own business (well, I share with the tax man, but not work!). There would need to be a serious conflict of interest before it was worth them taking action. And I would also be highly valuable to my company's competitors, so it would be a bit silly of them to lose me over something like this if it had no real impact.

Perhaps it depends on what the second job is? A teacher friend of mine is paid to watch football matches at the weekend (talent scout), but I think there are some second jobs that would not be appropriate!!

I would be interested to hear other's thoughts on this. Perhaps the forum police could do us the courtesy of staying out of the thread, I think your point has been made.

KiKi

SunnySusie wrote: »

I would be interested to hear other's thoughts on this. Perhaps the forum police could do us the courtesy of staying out of the thread, I think your point has been made.

I don't see any forum police. The only person who has said what can or can't happen in this thread, ironically, is you!

Legally yes, it's enforceable. The simple answer is that you need permission and will have to ask, and it's better to go in prepared with what you plan to do so that area manager can make a judgement on whether or not that second job is appropriate / competition.

KiKi

Sambucus_Nigra

SunnySusie wrote: »

Looking through the old thread I can see some very unhelpful and patronising posts. I don't see why this topic is particularly undeserving of discussion!

Which ones were unhelpful and patronising? The ones saying exactly what to say perhaps?

DCFC79

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

that is because no good answers were given. This question is about how to ask as in what to say

Well your other thread was about how to ask permission to take a second job so were the replies not suitable ?

In fact is thread not asking the same question ?

Brett you had very good advice on the other thread on how to go about it.

DCFC79

SunnySusie wrote: »

Perhaps the forum police could do us the courtesy of staying out of the thread, I think your point has been made.

What forum police ?