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cheepskate_2

Sorry , prob not what your wanting to hear......but if you allow them to be rude and disrespectful to you, why would they respect anyone else.

I really think you need to go to ss and ask for parental classes as your children are so out of control .

I feel sorry for them , they are still young....dread to think what they will be like at 15

Ivrytwr3

cheepskate wrote: »

Sorry , prob not what your wanting to hear......but if you allow them to be rude and disrespectful to you, why would they respect anyone else.

Agreed.

cheepskate wrote: »

I really think you need to go to ss and ask for parental classes as your children are so out of control . i feel sorry for them , they are still young, what will they be like at 15

SSs'?! Parental Classes!? Blimey that's a bit extreme. That should be the final option surely?!

How about enforcing rules ie no wishy washy threats. Make a threat and follow up on it.

Take them for walks and burn off some energy.

Loads of things can be done before SS.

cheepskate_2

Why should parental classes be a final option????

A final option for what......when the kid is so out of control, that nothing will bring them back to a "normal" well behaved child.

Mojisola

Parenting classes are where you can learn the things you need to implement. If things are as bad as nje24 says, he/she obviously needs advice and support. Why wait?

Ivrytwr3

No mention of your recommendation of SS, you have chosen just to focus on the Parental Classes? OK then..............

At no point did i say "until the child is out of control". As correctly identified parental classes teach, so why do you need to go to a class immediately? The OP came here asking for help and advice, so why can't people here give some advice and help on what experience they have on the subject, instead of saying "go take a class"?

Lotus-eater

They riot because I'm guessing they know it means you will back down.

Take all their stuff off them, take the plug off the tv, anything that's needed, but do it.

Have you never seen supernanny on tv? Every episode is like this.

delain

Maybe the kids can tell that you're fed up, have you tried talking to the older ones, they might understand they are doing themselves out of being able to do things.

Do they get things 'given' or do they earn things like phone credit etc?

My DD1 is 9 and recently went out with OH when he was helping a friend by cutting some trees back, she helped all day and earned £5 (child labour ) She was delighted and has understood the value of money a bit more since and nagged less. Don't get me wrong we've had other problems, but not whining or asking for money.

To some degree I agree with the other posts, if they know you are likely to give in there will be riots. Getting them to know that you mean what you say will be hell on earth but worth it in the end.

As for arguing with each other, it's what siblings do! My brother and me spent many happy days running about in fields (we lived on a farm) beating each other senseless :rotfl: we now have a very good relationship, so don't worry too much about that as long as no child is being victimised in particular.

gingin_2

Parenting classes are a brilliant idea, I know they are sometimes offered through our school, or you could talk to the school nurse and I'm sure she will know.

I think you have to be consistent and you have to be prepared to be the bad guy sometimes as a parent. It's easy to let the tv/computer/phone do the parenting and maybe that is why they act up so much when it is taken away. Give them a set time on them each day and then they can begin to rely less on them.

Although you are venting, calling them little !!!!!s is not great, I hope you don't swear at them to their faces, or let them swear at you.

Mojisola

nje24 wrote: »

If you give them any consequences to their behaviour i.e take there phones/ipods off them, turn the tv off they riot quite literally.

I have taken there phones off them and bar from restrict all their priveleges pocket money, tv, computer games what am i to do.

Ivrytwr3 wrote: »

The OP came here asking for help and advice, so why can't people here give some advice and help on what experience they have on the subject, instead of saying "go take a class"?

Because it sounds as if nje24 already knows the techniques so probably knows what we might suggest and, also, sounds very much in need of support which will be part of the parenting course - from the tutors and the other parents.

gingin_2

Ivrytwr3 wrote: »

No mention of your recommendation of SS, you have chosen just to focus on the Parental Classes? OK then..............

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I read it that cheepskate meant the parenting classes could be found through Social services, it seemed very reasonable to me.