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Off sick 2 weeks.......manager wants to visit me :( do I have to let her?
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stinky_onions wrote: »Coveredinbees
I am off work with Pleurisy, the points is a new system called the Bradford score, I am just off to read the paperwork they gave us when they first introduced it (if I can find it).
We had that. It actually gives people higher scores for several short term absences, rather than for longer ones such as yours. It is also policy to carry out regular reviews on progress etc.
I didn't like it, and preferred old fashioned things like people visiting you who wanted to know how you were getting on, rather than doing it as part of a procedure.
It can be very uncomfortable for those visiting too, knowing it is a procedure, rather than a genuine welfare thing, even if they are genuinely concerned.
It is upto you at the end of the day though. They have no right to enter your home if you dont want them to.0 -
Employer has no right to enter your home but as part of their back to work requirements they can request a home visit or ask you to come into the office for a brief chat. It could also be done on the phone.
The ridiculous thing is the employer could be sued by an employee who was off work for a long time and wanted to come back but felt scared to ask and so the employer would be liable for not giving them that option to come back, etc so whilst such visits are mainly in their interests not yours, to refuse any kind of contact with your employer over an extended sickness period can only go against you in a case of dismissal further down the line as employer would argue they wanted to meet you to ascertain when you'd return, to offer you light duties, etc and you refused.
Being off two weeks and signed for two more is a little pushy on the employers behalf, if you've had time off before that may explain it. I'd certainly not contemplate meeting someone for at least 2 months (depending upon the type of illness). Not trying to scare you but you need to think if they do want rid of you, you can't let them have all the cards and if they are genuinely interested in helping you then, let them help you back to work.Anger ruins joy, it steals the goodness of my mind. Forces me to say terrible things. Overcoming anger brings peace of mind, a mind without regret. If I overcome anger, I will be delightful and loved by everyone.0 -
Coveredinbees!!!! wrote: »If your signed off by your doctor on the sick you must therefore be sick
I know to get signed off by my doctor you have to be practically dead.
As for clocking up points what does that mean exactly you can't be sacked for being ill
IvanI don't care about your first world problems; I have enough of my own!0 -
stinky_onions wrote: »ShockingPink
Thanks for the reply.
Yes I do get on with my manager, but my biggest problem is my husband.
He says "This is our home and we do not have to let anyone in if we are uncomfortable with it" This comes from him having a home visit a few years ago, which he says was a complete waste of time,and he hated the people who did the visit, and always said he would never allow it again.
I can hardly say that to my manager though, can I?
Think I will give her a ring and offer to go in and see her, hope that will be ok.
Your husband is right. Also, I think it will only make you feel worse to be interrogated by your manager. I think it is perfectly reasonable to tell her you are not up to visitors at the moment (you are off sick after all) and say you would prefer to postpone the meeting until you are well enough (when you are back at work). Where I work, there is a rule that if someone is off sick, you DO NOT contact them if you have a doctors note. Then, when you go back to work you have a "back to work interview" to make sure you are OK.
Hope you feel well soon.0 -
I've been off sick nearly 6 weeks and definately wouldn't want my manager coming to see me.
What does she think it will achieve by coming to see you anyway?
If you've been signed off sick by your Doctor surely that is proof enough to your manager that you are in fact sick.
Can she not call you instead and have a chat? (when you're up to it of course).-->♥<-- Sugar Coated Owl -->♥<--
If you believe, you will survive - Katie Piper
Woohoo! I'm normal! Gotta go tell the cat.0 -
wotta cheek. pleurisy is very nasty and you shouldnt have to justify being signed off for another fortnight with it.Ellie :cool:
"man is born free but everywhere he is in chains"
J-J Rousseau0 -
Tell the boss to bring it on .. also suggest that they pick up a nice chinese carry out on the way round
IvanI don't care about your first world problems; I have enough of my own!0 -
Having been in a similar situation, I did not let my manager into my home at any time...they do not "have" to do it...its all company claptrap to try and frighten you back into work, as they feel that your return to work with a leg hanging off and all other sorts of ailments is much more important than you returning to full health!!
Let her know, or your HR department that you feel under duress to let her visit and it is causing unnecessary stress. My work requested a report from my GP and my gps told them that their persistance in a home visit was exacerbating my condition.
Good luck, hope it works out ok.
C xIf you obey all the rules...you miss all the fun!! Katherine Hepburn0 -
IvanOpinion wrote: »Tell the boss to bring it on .. also suggest that they pick up a nice chinese carry out on the way round
Ivan
They did used to bring fruit or beer round when they came on visits to us, so it wasn't too bad.0 -
My company has a policy of doing a home visit once a month for people off sick, and as the manager, I have to do this then report back to the human resources dept.
It is not a way to bully staff back to work, but a way to keep in touch so that if people are off for a long period, we can plan a return, and so that they don't feel as if they've been forgotten about in the meantime. People who are off longer term may need to come back on reduced hours initially, and the employer has a legal responsibility to ensure that reasonable adjustments are made and risk assessments carried out if the persons condition requires this.
Where the visit is held is up to the person who is off sick - if they don't want me to come to their home that's fine, I have been known to meet people for coffee, lunch, or in the pub.All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.
Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.0
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