UKCPS So called 'Car parking managment'

Ruck_Idol

:cool:My daughter parked a car on a site in Reading. She was doing her friend a favour taking her there for an appointment.

She was advised by the friend that she could wait for 2 hours. they overstayed their allocated time by 7 minutes.

I have received two letters from the company advising me (registered keeper) that the time for parking is 90 minutes and the car was parked for inexcess of 37 minutes over allocated parking period.

£100 or if paid in 14 days for the date of the offence (now 6 days since the alleged offence!) £60.

My question is their a liability for this charge?

If it is not paid will they legally be able to collect from me?

I live 75 miles away and taking an appraisal of one of my staff with a co-director present.

Do I have to advise them who was the driver?

If I was not in the vehicle and they are unaware of who the driver was am I liable for the fine?

ManxRed

You are not liable for the 'fine' (its not even a fine, technically its an invoice - UKCPS and other private parking companies don't have the authority to issue fines), if they continue to tell you that you are liable then you ought to report them to Trading Standards.

1. The driver is liable
2. But only for actual losses incurred by the landowner.
3. How much would 37 mins worth of parking have cost? This is what the driver legally owes.
4. But only to the landowner, NOT UKCPS.
5. You are under no legal obligation whatsoever to tell them who the driver was.

Ignore everything (apart from if you want to notify Trading Standards should they continue to imply that - as registered keeper - you are liable), eventually they will go away.

peter_the_piper

Pity the OP has not felt able to update or answer the above queries, I don't like open posts as I'm sure others don't also.

Ruck_Idol

Thanks for that.

What do I do next?

Do I write and advise them that I was not the Driver and do not have any liability as I was not using the said land?

If they accept that response which I assume they will not will they then seek the name of the driver.

If they do, do I have to provide them with the answer?

Can I refuse to advise them of the name of the driver?

Do they have any rights to ask for the name of the driver?

Will they issue me with a County Court Summons?

peter_the_piper

No, yes, no, yes, no, no. I think that sums it up.

Ruck_Idol

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Pity the OP has not felt able to update or answer the above queries, I don't like open posts as I'm sure others don't also.

Sorry I am new on here.

What is an open post?

Have I done anything wrong in seeking an answer to a problem that I am facing or was this a post to someone else?

Ruck_Idol

peter_the_piper wrote: »

No, yes, no, yes, no, no. I think that sums it up.

Thank you for that assistance.

Final thought though.

Do I simply ignore it or send them a letter advising them that I was not the driver and this can be proved by reference to my diary and my co-director?

Ignore and wait?

I would not want have to pay the £60 let alone £100!

peter_the_piper

Ruck_Idol wrote: »

Sorry I am new on here.

What is an open post?

Have I done anything wrong in seeking an answer to a problem that I am facing or was this a post to someone else?

OP is original post/er
Nothing wrong with seeking an answer but its easier to find if you have your own thread.

ManxRed

OP is Original Poster. So in this case Radiolamb.

Don't worry, its not a reflection on you, its just that if the original people actually come back to confirm that nothing eventually happened then its additional reassurance for what we are telling you.

Our advice is to ignore the parking company. They will ignore anything you write to them anyway, and (1) may think you are taking them seriously and mark you out for further attention and (2) you may inadvertantly give them information which they can use (despite their case being non-existent anyway).

Best advice is to ignore.

You'd be extremely unlucky to get a county court summons, something like 1 in 200,000 tickets get one of these, and your defence is cast iron anyway. On the rare occasions when a parking company do decide very foolishly to try it on, it is against someone who they have had sufficient correspondence with to feel confident about taking a wild punt. The court summons is in itself a scare tactic, if defended then they don't usually turn up anyway.

As I said though, you'd be very very very unlucky to get one. 99.99999999999999999% of the time they just give up and go away.

peter_the_piper

Ruck_Idol wrote: »

Thank you for that assistance.

Final thought though.

Do I simply ignore it or send them a letter advising them that I was not the driver and this can be proved by reference to my diary and my co-director?

Ignore and wait?

I would not want have to pay the £60 let alone £100!

Ignore, they will send rubbish but its easy to ignore if you think along the lines of nigerian scammer.