Help on probable redundancy

ponymad_3

Hope someone can help a friend whose partner has redundancy looming and whose large company seem not to be following the rules.
1. 1. What is the redundancy steps that a business has to follow if you are notified by them that your role “may” be being made redundant. I have been invited to, and attended, two consultation meetings a week apart, and informed that there is a 30 day consultation period.

2. 2.When do I find out if my role has been made redundant.

3. 3.When a new business structure is published in the redundancy pack can the new structure change within the consultation period?

4. 4 If you are told that your position may be under threat and you have attended can you be forced to note take for someone who is also under threat of redundancy consultation meeting? Although he declined to do this he was told he had to and felt this was not approriate.

Really grateful for advice and information.

For the record the empoyee is middle management and supervises staff at differnet site locations.

ponymad_3

Sorry to bump bit can anyone out there help.

I have found the redundancy sticky but in particular to the note taking issue would like views on whether this was acceptable practice. Also in view of this he also feels that this may have jeopardised his potential for finding another role within the company.
He has had a 40 min competency based interview for an alternative position and will hear on Fri 13th if this has been successful - seems unlikely felt it was lip service interview. The day before he had this interview at 4pm on the Friday he received an email appraisal form and was asked to bring to the interview with him.

thanks for any help

princessdon

By no means an expert - Just someone who seems to permanantly face redudnacy threats


1. What is the redundancy steps that a business has to follow if you are notified by them that your role “may” be being made redundant. I have been invited to, and attended, two consultation meetings a week apart, and informed that there is a 30 day consultation period.

Consultation is a dual process - you can requset consultation if you feel you have something relevant if the 2 meetings are not enough and you have pertinent information. The word consultation is two way - you have to call them if you feel you need to.

2. 2.When do I find out if my role has been made redundant.

At the end of the consultation process (normally it is a case of it is gone unless you can provide alternatives via consultation). Eg 2 years ago we lost 12/16 employees in a team - all placed at risk - but by week 2, 4 had taken voluntary so during consultation there was no need for redundancy.

3. 3.When a new business structure is published in the redundancy pack can the new structure change within the consultation period?

It can (that is what consultation is for), but is often unlikely unless the alternative is beneficial to the business

4. 4 If you are told that your position may be under threat and you have attended can you be forced to note take for someone who is also under threat of redundancy consultation meeting? Although he declined to do this he was told he had to and felt this was not approriate.

Certainly not in my area for a colleague, but as a manager (if no HR is available) as you are their line manager then yes

princessdon

ponymad wrote: »

Sorry to bump bit can anyone out there help.

I have found the redundancy sticky but in particular to the note taking issue would like views on whether this was acceptable practice. Also in view of this he also feels that this may have jeopardised his potential for finding another role within the company.
He has had a 40 min competency based interview for an alternative position and will hear on Fri 13th if this has been successful - seems unlikely felt it was lip service interview. The day before he had this interview at 4pm on the Friday he received an email appraisal form and was asked to bring to the interview with him.

thanks for any help

They have to apply a fair process - Is he aware of the competencies they are using to select via the appraisal form?

If so complete FULLY - I mean put every thing possible into it (if you want to stay in work). People have lost because they didn't mention team player and others did.

He can ask for his scores and the grading if unsuccessful - and challenge this via appeal, but until this happens it is guesswork

getmore4less

Just because you might be redunant does not change your current job untill you are redundant.

Normal duties can include being a company note taker at consultation meetings of others.

if asked to be a note taker on behalf of the person under threat that is a different between you and the person and nothing to do with the company.

ponymad_3

princessdon wrote: »

They have to apply a fair process - Is he aware of the competencies they are using to select via the appraisal form?

If so complete FULLY - I mean put every thing possible into it (if you want to stay in work). People have lost because they didn't mention team player and others did.

He can ask for his scores and the grading if unsuccessful - and challenge this via appeal, but until this happens it is guesswork

Thanks for your reply. I totally understand about the fully completed and his partner helped him complete and has the experience to do this. The issue here is that is sending by email the day before the competency based interview in the last hour of the day deemed reasonable? He then had to take his completed form to that interview. He has never had any appraisal of this format in the past.

Will def take on board that he requests the scores and grading. To my knowledge the competencies being checked were not notified prior to the interview.

ponymad_3

getmore4less wrote: »

Just because you might be redunant does not change your current job untill you are redundant.

Normal duties can include being a company note taker at consultation meetings of others.

Was the company that said he needed to be the notetaker, but this was not for one of his staff it was for someone in a similar role, not someone he line managed, and someone at same threat of losing job. Just does nt seem appropriate?

Thanks for your advice

getmore4less

ponymad wrote: »

getmore4less wrote: »

Just because you might be redunant does not change your current job untill you are redundant.

Normal duties can include being a company note taker at consultation meetings of others.

Was the company that said he needed to be the notetaker, but this was not for one of his staff it was for someone in a similar role, not someone he line managed, and someone at same threat of losing job. Just does nt seem appropriate?

Thanks for your advice

Thats very appropriate for a company note taker,

A relative outsider, so as independant as you can get internaly.