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Counting the kids
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But it's not just the doctors and nurses of tomorrow that we need. We need bus drivers, street sweepers, council workers, cleaners, shop workers, factory workers, refuse collectors, etc, etc.I suspect that those who do choose to bring children into the world who have never worked a day in their life and have no intention of doing so are not raising the professionals of the future.0 -
JimmyTheWig wrote: »But it's not just the doctors and nurses of tomorrow that we need. We need bus drivers, street sweepers, council workers, cleaners, shop workers, factory workers, refuse collectors, etc, etc.
Benefits dependence breeds benefits dependence.0 -
JimmyTheWig wrote: »But it's not just the doctors and nurses of tomorrow that we need. We need bus drivers, street sweepers, council workers, cleaners, shop workers, factory workers, refuse collectors, etc, etc.
Millions of Brits choose to life on benefits and yes it can be quite a comfy lifestyle - I see it with the HB tenants we deal with, afterall consider the fact all these folk said there was no work, yet Eastern Europeans had no trouble finidng it and many have gone on to prosper after a lowly start (the local Tesco manager came here 10 years ago and started initialy picking tomatoes at a green house nursery).
Displaced smpathy for those supposedly in need is what has allowed welfare liefstyling to flourish.
There is nothing progressive about endemic welfare culture. It corrodes society and ruins the lives of millions of children as they grow up without ambition.0 -
Which would you choose to employ?afterall consider the fact all these folk said there was no work, yet Eastern Europeans had no trouble finidng it
There isn't much work for people who're basically crap at working. An interesting collection of life's misfits can be seen on night shifts at Asda, from what I've seen, but they can only employ so many."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
And if you cut benefits? More kids growing up in households where people work as "sex workers", and drug dealers, and career housebreakers. What else do you think they're going to do?Nah, let's just carry on as we are with having millions of kids growing up in households where no one ever works"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
Man is raising 4 kids by two different mothers, both of whom have left and shacked up with other men and maybe had more kids to go with their not-officially-stepkids.
Who's got how many kids Dave?
Now worry about the nieces, grandkids, foster kids etc. And the kids who have two families because they split their time between their parents.
what's your solution for cutting benefits? just saying "oh it's all too difficult" isn't going to do much for the deficit.
or do you think it's not necessary to reduce public spending when it outstrips tax revenues by nearly 30%?0 -
And if you cut benefits? More kids growing up in households where people work as "sex workers", and drug dealers, and career housebreakers. What else do you think they're going to do?
Maybe these people could take some responsibility and have fewer children, better still have no children.0 -
Which would you choose to employ?
There isn't much work for people who're basically crap at working. An interesting collection of life's misfits can be seen on night shifts at Asda, from what I've seen, but they can only employ so many.
It depends on why they are crap at working. If they have a learning difficulty for example, then they should continue to receive benefits if they need them as that's only fair.
However if people are just crap at working, then they need to get better at working. How do you get better at anything: football, computer games, driving, cookery, work, if you don't practice?Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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Be serious. The Tories are planning years ahead. If they're saying we'll need even more austerity after the election, they're saying that current economic policy is failing. That's not what they're saying.chewmylegoff wrote: »or do you think it's not necessary to reduce public spending when it outstrips tax revenues by nearly 30%?
And how much money would they save by targeting large families? Not a lot.
It's purely ideological. It's about votes, that's all.
And it's completely unimplementable, so if they win the election, they'll just fudge it. Same as they're meeting their immigration cap promise by losing zillions of postgrad business students from China and the Gulf, which isn't exactly what Dagenham Man thought he was voting for."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
They'll need a diagnosis first. Good luck with that.vivatifosi wrote: »It depends on why they are crap at working. If they have a learning difficulty for example, then they should continue to receive benefits"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0
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