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Counting the kids

Man is raising 4 kids by two different mothers, both of whom have left and shacked up with other men and maybe had more kids to go with their not-officially-stepkids.

Who's got how many kids Dave?

Now worry about the nieces, grandkids, foster kids etc. And the kids who have two families because they split their time between their parents.
"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
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  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    Solution.

    http://patlit.blogspot.com/2011/05/pcc-page-27-two-more-bricks-in-wall.html

    People shouldn't be so darned common and have hundreds of kids.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    PaulF81 wrote: »
    People shouldn't be so darned common and have hundreds of kids.
    Or even four, like the Queen. What a pleb.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • Hantheman
    Hantheman Posts: 6 Forumite
    Trying to understand the benefit caps that are supposed to be coming in next year.

    If all under 25yr olds can not get housing benefit on their own and have to move back in with their parents, then what id they have children?

    If a daughter under 25 moves back in with her Mum and Dad and she has 2 kids, is this counted as one household?

    Will they only get £500 benefit total cap per household? What if the rent alone is £300 because they live in London? Are they all supposed to live on 200 to pay bills and food every week?
  • Carl31
    Carl31 Posts: 2,616 Forumite
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    PaulF81 wrote: »

    People shouldn't be so darned common and have hundreds of kids.

    What a weird comment, social status is now determined by number of children?

    Better inform peter jones what a !!!!! he is
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    The queen and Peter jones can afford them. Only a pleb would have kids not being able to afford them without state support. Scum.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    PaulF81 wrote: »
    Only a pleb would have kids not being able to afford them without state support. Scum.
    It's not unheard of for people's circumstances to change. Redundancy, divorce, death, stuff like that.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • stonethrower
    stonethrower Posts: 340 Forumite
    pqrdef wrote: »
    It's not unheard of for people's circumstances to change. Redundancy, divorce, death, stuff like that.

    I wonder what percentage of claimants with large families are claiming because of these circumstances. Not that big of a percentage would be my guess.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    I wonder what percentage of claimants with large families are claiming because of these circumstances. Not that big of a percentage would be my guess.
    So what? People and their kids and their needs don't go away just because they're only a small percentage.

    So does the State get back into the Victorian business of distinguishing the deserving poor from the undeserving poor?

    Do we start looking at people's life histories to decide who's to blame for their circumstances?

    It probably won't help. Your serial single mother typically thinks she's OK now because she's got a good bloke now, so why shouldn't she have another kid? Only the bloke doesn't hang around, just like the others didn't.

    Clerk at Benefits Agency: "Oh well, that was never going to last, was it. Anybody could see that."
    "He was knocking off my brother's wife!"
    "Only after you slept with that Terry from the chip shop"
    Perhaps Jeremy Kyle could adjudicate on benefits.

    More than half of all kids are born to unmarried parents now. And a lot more are born to married parents who then divorce. Lifelong relationships are out of fashion. A lot of kids live with adults who aren't their real parents.

    Do we hold the kids to blame for their situations now?
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • stonethrower
    stonethrower Posts: 340 Forumite
    So what you are saying is we just carry on as before, there has to be a line drawn somewhere.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    there has to be a line drawn somewhere.
    Ah yes, the universal all-purpose argument. Hang people for stealing an apple. Well there has to be a line drawn somewhere!
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
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