what's the difference between a joiner and a carpenter?

noelphobic

? Apart from the fact that 'carpenter' seems dated.

Gloomendoom

One uses screws to join bits of wood and the other uses nails.

A joiner generally works in a workshop and to a higher standard than a carpenter who generally works on site.

Generally.

Leif

Online dictionary: "a person trained and skilled in making finished woodwork, such as windows, doors, and stairs". Other sources say similar things. So I guess a carpenter might do the joists, floorboards, rafters and so on, that being wood that is left unfinished, with low tolerances. Whereas a joiner does finer work, with finer tolerances, and a high finish e.g kitchen cabinets.

PasturesNew

A joiner can make furniture in a house, fit wonderful kitchens, make furniture from scratch. Create built in cupboards, cabinets or bespoke doors. A craftsman.

A carpenter's a bloke with a saw that does mostly less aesthetic stuff like hanging doors, sawing/fitting skirting boards, putting up studwork for plaster-board. Bit of a bloke.

jc808

A joiner will have a custom made oak toolrack in a sanctum-like workshop and a mug of hot coffee, while a carpenter will generally have a rough beard, a ford connect van with crumbs/ wood shavings in the footwells, and a collection of dewalt powertools in varying states of scratched-up-ness

Avoriaz

A carpenter cuts wood into pieces.

A joiner joins them together again.

robatwork

The joiners never had a number 1

leveller2911

Do you mean a 1st fix carpenter or a 2nd fix carpenter?.......

Traditionally the 1st fix carpenter will do all the on site work that need doing before the walls are plastered ie studwork (walls), pitch the roof,suspended floors etc.. The 2nd fix carpenter will do all the carpentry after the walls have been plastered so things like hanging doors,architraves,skirting boards,cupboards etc.

The Joiner will be tucked up in his workshop making the doors,windows,kitchens etc that the 2nd fix carpenter will fit.

Generally speaking modern day chippies will do all the 1st,2nd fix (although most now don't have the skill to pitch a roof) and the Joiner still Joinery based and works to a higher standard.

@ jc808 & Avoriaz made me chuckle ......:rotfl::D

john.h

And usually the joiner gets paid a lot less...:D

McKneff

Then, of course, we have the cabinet maker lol

john.h

In the North-East you you never hear of a carpenter.. Its bench hand joiner, joiner (1st & 2nd fix, kitchens etc), shop fitter and shuttering joiner..

John...