Shared Driveway / Boundary Help Needed

Unsureneedhelp

Strapped wrote: »

So your neighbour (and you) have a garage that you want to permenantly prevent vehicular access to? Can you see that might be considered a little unreasonable? :eek: I predict that if you press ahead with it, your fence will have multiple nocturnal "accidents".

Thank you for your comments, I do know what you mean and where you are coming from honestly.

The fence and in addition a change to my garden would allow two cars to be parked on the drive at the same time. Does not sound completely unreasonable.

Yes it preferable to park in a garage but not for me under these circumstances. I just want a nice easy quiet life, come home from work, park my car and go into my house or if I want to go out, I want to just get in my car and go. Isn't that a reasonable thing to want ?

princeofpounds

Annoying situation. I do understand it, although as pointed out neighbour disputes can be an expensive pain to resolve.

I can't comment on the crossed-out section (which is highly irregular) but one thing that is very clear to me is that they should not be parking on your drive at all. A right of way is exactly that, it is not a right to park and block, even if it is vehicular.

This assumes you haven't let it slide for so long they have established an easement through long use.

GDB2222

Have you tried just parking between the visitor and the street? That way, they have to ask you when they want to leave.

Quite frankly, this is nothing to do with what's on the deeds and everything to do with sorting out a modus vivendi with your neighbour. Can't you invite him over for a drink, so you can explain what the issue is and how it's driving you crazy that you arrive home and can't park?

pararct

I would start parking at the top of the drive myself. If you are already parked there then the visitors would have to park elsewhere.
Possession is nine tenths of the law and all that. Let the neighbour come and ask you a few times to move and see how they like it.
If you come back and a visitor has already grabbed the space then park in front of them and block their exit. Same rule applies.

Often a taste of their own medicine will concentrate their minds.

If you feel you cannot handle any confrontation from this then it may be that you should let the dog lie.

Putting a fence up is not the answer!!

pinkshoes

Why don't you either block your neighbour's visitor in (then when they come round and ask you to move it, open the door with a bucket of wine in hand, and say you're over the limit so it'll have to wait until morning), or just tell them that if their visitors continue to obstruct the driveway, you will reinstate the boundary fence, as per all the other houses and as per previously existed.

Smi1er

OP. Don't be stupid and build a fence, you will only fall out with your neighbour, and that really ain't worth the trouble.

I too have a shared driveway. My neighbour park their cars in such a way that they need access to the shared part to both drive in and out. We park ours in such a way that we don't.

Whenever someone we know visits and happened to park on the shared bit they rant and rave, to such an extent that they are now afraid to park there, so don't. However their family and friends quite regularly park on the shared bit. Do I rant and rave at them? Nope. I grin and bare it.

Why do I do this? Because revenge is a dish best served cold:D. Next year my eldest turns 17. Within 7 years if all my children buy cars we will have an additional 4 cars. And I'll let you guess where the first one home will be instructed to park it?

Unsureneedhelp

princeofpounds wrote: »

Annoying situation. I do understand it, although as pointed out neighbour disputes can be an expensive pain to resolve.

I can't comment on the crossed-out section (which is highly irregular) but one thing that is very clear to me is that they should not be parking on your drive at all. A right of way is exactly that, it is not a right to park and block, even if it is vehicular.

This assumes you haven't let it slide for so long they have established an easement through long use.

Thanks Prince, the cost is very much of concern to me, it is part of the reason for the creation of this thread - to see if I have a basis of any kind of argument.

Unsureneedhelp

GDB2222 wrote: »

Have you tried just parking between the visitor and the street? That way, they have to ask you when they want to leave.

Quite frankly, this is nothing to do with what's on the deeds and everything to do with sorting out a modus vivendi with your neighbour. Can't you invite him over for a drink, so you can explain what the issue is and how it's driving you crazy that you arrive home and can't park?

We used to be very good friends, things have turned sour in recent years, in part to his guests and visitors parking on the drive.

I have tried to explain in the nicest possible way how I feel and even gone so far as to show in the documents I have to show that at most the drive is a right of way and parking is not permitted.

He is insistant that more than half the drive way is his and he can do what he likes. He is, so far unwilling to listen to reason

Unsureneedhelp

GDB2222 wrote: »

Have you tried just parking between the visitor and the street? That way, they have to ask you when they want to leave.

Quite frankly, this is nothing to do with what's on the deeds and everything to do with sorting out a modus vivendi with your neighbour. Can't you invite him over for a drink, so you can explain what the issue is and how it's driving you crazy that you arrive home and can't park?

I did try that before, nearly always ended in heated arguments with me being shouted and verbally abused by both my neighbour and the visitor/guest.

Nothing seems to get through to him, as far as he is concerned, he is in the right and do what he likes

Unsureneedhelp

pararct wrote: »

I would start parking at the top of the drive myself. If you are already parked there then the visitors would have to park elsewhere.
Possession is nine tenths of the law and all that. Let the neighbour come and ask you a few times to move and see how they like it.
If you come back and a visitor has already grabbed the space then park in front of them and block their exit. Same rule applies.

Often a taste of their own medicine will concentrate their minds.

If you feel you cannot handle any confrontation from this then it may be that you should let the dog lie.

Putting a fence up is not the answer!!

Unfortunately, I have tried this without any success, just lead to more arguments and stress.

All I really want is a quiet life and the peaceful enjoyment of my home, letting the dog lie and allowing presctiptive rights to be aquired in the future by my neighbour is not really an option.

I am in my mid 30's, like my home and intend to live here for many years to come