Rspca!

BECKIN1507

I am totally disgusted, :mad:

http://www.doglistener.co.uk/neutering/rspca.shtml

heartbreak_star

that's mental!

HBS x

Person_one

There's no link to the RSPCA announcement though, where have they said it?

BECKIN1507

Person_one wrote: »

There's no link to the RSPCA announcement though, where have they said it?

Not sure, but it's not really something they are going to shout out and tell everyone about. They would probably have to tell you if you emailed them, or they will just not bother answering.

krlyr

Spaying dogs young is quite common in the US. Pros and cons, I don't think it's entirely appaling to want to prevent accidental or purpose-bred litters from unknown heritage - the only way for them to truly guarantee it is to neuter the dogs while in their care (as spay/neuter contracts may not be followed through) and with puppies it would be highly difficult, and also having an negative effect on the dogs, to keep them until they were fully mature to neuter them then.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge by one article. I believe that the "Dog Listener" is an aquired taste. Well-known for taking quite critical stances on big names in the dogs well (criticising the website, Dogs Blog, and I think legal action was taken against him for that)
http://www.dogchat.co.uk/stan-rawlinson-abuse-complaints/
http://www.ryanomeara.com/stan-rawlinson/
http://www.petfriendlyworld.com/chatforum/showthread.php?t=31781
http://www.dognews.co.uk/stan-rawlinson-doglistener-liar-fakes-his-testimonials/

Of course, I don't know the guy to judge him myself but I would suggest doing your own research on the benefits and downsides of early neutering before condemning the RSPCA.

Oliver14

Neutering Cats at 6 weeks is very common in the US, Australia and parts of europe and with some pedigree breeders in this country. There is some good solid research out there saying that for cats it is appropriate. For dogs I know nothing of the research.

As kryl says the so called 'Dog Listener' is a bit of an acquired taste and his opinions are frequently conroversial for the sake of it and some of the training methods he recomends are definately not on the 'Positive reinforcement' side of dig training.

BECKIN1507

krlyr wrote: »

Spaying dogs young is quite common in the US. Pros and cons, I don't think it's entirely appaling to want to prevent accidental or purpose-bred litters from unknown heritage - the only way for them to truly guarantee it is to neuter the dogs while in their care (as spay/neuter contracts may not be followed through) and with puppies it would be highly difficult, and also having an negative effect on the dogs, to keep them until they were fully mature to neuter them then.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge by one article. I believe that the "Dog Listener" is an aquired taste. Well-known for taking quite critical stances on big names in the dogs well (criticising the website, Dogs Blog, and I think legal action was taken against him for that)
http://www.dogchat.co.uk/stan-rawlinson-abuse-complaints/
http://www.ryanomeara.com/stan-rawlinson/
http://www.petfriendlyworld.com/chatforum/showthread.php?t=31781
http://www.dognews.co.uk/stan-rawlinson-doglistener-liar-fakes-his-testimonials/

Of course, I don't know the guy to judge him myself but I would suggest doing your own research on the benefits and downsides of early neutering before condemning the RSPCA.

I've never heard of him but spaying that young is cruel in my eyes, I would never put a pup that young through surgery that is not needed, obviously life saving surgery is different. I hope it's not true but to be honest I haven't got a very high opinion of the rspca anyway.

PixieDust

Ferrets are routinely "desexed" in the US at a very early age - 6-8 weeks....way earlier than the 6-12 months recommended in the UK. In the US, on average, their ferrets die MUCH younger, and suffer more adrenal cancer at a much earlier age than in the uk.

Just sayin'

meritaten

yes, but in the good old US of A, they routinely 'declaw' cats. makes me a little suspicious of thier ethics!

HeatherintheHills

The comment was made by David Yates in an interview with the Shooting Times. See HERE

How can neutering so young not impede an animal's natural development? If you tried to get your vet to do this they would refuse.

PixieDust

Meritaten...sorry if I wasn't clear My point is that the early neutering is somewhat clearly proven to be detrimental to the longterm wellbeing of ferrets, even allowing for environmental factors like the unusual amount of daylight that US indoor ferrets are exposed to compared to the shorter daylight hours that UK outdoor ferrets get.

I believe that there is a direct correlation between early neutering and early death, and higher instances of certain cancers. I don't see why this would be any different in any other young animal who is neutered before they are fully developed.