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Warning! BT increase charges for non direct debit payers

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  • AnW'sMum
    AnW'sMum Posts: 4,416 Forumite
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    Just got my phone bill today. I use 1571 but make all my calls via talk talk. How would I make the 6 chargable calls (abliet very short ones!) per quarter with BT to avoid the £3 fee for using 1571?
    Official Mascot and Chief Cheerleader for the 'Mortgage Free in Three' Gang :D
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
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    AnW'sMum wrote: »
    Just got my phone bill today. I use 1571 but make all my calls via talk talk. How would I make the 6 chargable calls (abliet very short ones!) per quarter with BT to avoid the £3 fee for using 1571?
    Prefix 6 evening or weekend calls of less than an hour to UK 01 or 02 numbers each quarter with 1280 - to send them out on BT (5½p each = 33p).

    Better still, DUMP 1571.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • AnW'sMum
    AnW'sMum Posts: 4,416 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Heinz wrote: »
    Better still, DUMP 1571.

    Thanks for that Heinz, I shall be hunting out the instruction book for our phone which has an answer machine incorporated. Have been using 1571 as my DS (who is now 4) loves pressing buttons and would switch the answerphone off without me knowing! As it was costing nothing for me to use 1571 I didn't worry but now I shall dumping 1571, as soon as I find the instruction book (or look it up on the net)
    Official Mascot and Chief Cheerleader for the 'Mortgage Free in Three' Gang :D
  • 123xyz
    123xyz Posts: 436 Forumite
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    Heinz wrote: »
    Martin amended the OP (by adding the word "don't" between the words 'who' and 'pay') 3 minutes after you posted JuliaH.



    Thanks very much, you had me worried there! I had a horrible feeling I was going to be penalised for using Direct Debit, when I had set it up to save money.
    Just off the border of your waking mind, there lies another time ....
  • 123xyz
    123xyz Posts: 436 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    MSE_Martin wrote: »
    Sorry Julia - I've corrected my typo

    Thanks very much, I am easily spooked in my current precarious financial situation! :o
    Just off the border of your waking mind, there lies another time ....
  • For years and years, I used to go into the bank once a month on pay day and pay all my bills, via bank giro, with one cheque made payable to cash.
    I used to take the spare money next door to the building society and pay it into my savings account after paying the mortgage.
    Life was financially simple BUT the only spanner in the works was BT. It got stroppy 14 days after issuing its invoice.
    I noticed last week that Martin was !!!! a hoop over British Gas backing off charging late payers; well BT started doing that years ago and could class someone who paid once a month as "late". So against my better judgement, I had to give them a DD authority.
    These days of course it is all direct debits and (over) estimated bills for utilities and it is the customer who has to do all the planning and meter reading, just to keep on a financial even keel.
    The whole BT charging structure is a slick money extracting operation based on the simplicity with which it can cut you off and then charge a fortune for reconnection.
    If it is unfair for the banks to charge more than 12.50 for getting stroppy over unintentional slips on credit card payments and overdrafts; someone needs to look at BT's charges for similar actions.
  • housebug
    housebug Posts: 201 Forumite
    What is it with this insatiable desire to attach themselves to your bank account? I don't like using Direct Debit. The effing payments can come out as much as five days earlier than the designated date! And you try to get suppliers to acquiese to Standing Order instead. That they CAN'T have before the designated date.

    This really steams me. Its getting so everyone wants DD or your penalised. Suppliers should consider themselves lucky you give them your business to start with. I'm not going to be pressured or penalised into allowing anyone access to my bank account. This particularly hits a lot of seniors and low income people who may not have bank accounts to debit, but use the post office or pay point stops.

    Greedy barstwards!
  • marcellep
    marcellep Posts: 1,695 Forumite
    Seen this on Watchdog, Maybe Mse Staff could create a letter that we can download, print and send to these companies!
    [YOUR ADDRESS]

    [ADDRESS OF COMPANY – list of company addresses are below]



    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I am writing to protest about your penalty charge for customers who do not pay by direct debit.

    I think this charge is unfair and does not reflect the true cost of processing my payment. It seems to me simply a way of increasing your revenue.

    Provided I do so on time, it is my right to pay my bill however I choose. Why should I pay more just because I don't use your preferrred payment method?

    I urge you to reconsider this unreasonable charge. But if you insist on continuing with it, I would expect you to demonstrate that the charge is justified. You will be aware that the law says penalty charges must be fair.

    I do not believe that this is the case with yours, but look forward to hearing your explanation.

    Yours faithfully,




    [YOUR NAME]

    Phone company addresses:
    BT
    Customer Services
    BT plc
    Correspondence Centre
    Durham DH98 1BT

    VIRGIN MEDIA
    Virgin Media - Watchdog Complaints
    Matrix Court
    Llansamlet
    Swansea SA7 9BB

    Talk Talk (mobile)
    TalkTalk Telecom Limited
    Customer Care
    1 Portal Way
    London W3 6RS

    3
    3 Customer Services
    Hutchison 3G UK Ltd
    PO Box No 333
    Glasgow G2 9AG
    Email: customer.services@3mail.com

    O2
    Jonathan Attwell
    Arlington Business Centre
    Millshaw Park Lane
    Leeds LS11 0NE
    Email: pressoffice@02.com

    T-Mobile
    6 Camberwell Way
    Doxford
    Sunderland SR3 3XN
    Email: custrel@t-mobile.co.uk

    Vodafone
    Vodafone Customer Care,
    Vodafone House,
    The Connection,
    Newbury,
    Berkshire RG14 2FN

    Orange
    Orange Executive Office
    Senhouse Road
    Lingfield Way
    Darlington
    County Durham DL1 4YG
    Email: executive.office@orange-ftgroup.com

    Utility company addresses:
    British Gas
    House Contact Centre
    PO Box 50
    Leeds LS1 1LE

    Powergen
    PO Box 7750
    Nottingham NG1 6WR

    Npower
    PO Box 93
    Peterlee SR8 2XX

    EDF Energy Customer Service Team
    EDF Energy Customer Service Team
    Freepost 3814
    London WC1V 6AJ
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  • heather38
    heather38 Posts: 1,741 Forumite
    what other companies will be charging? i pay powergen when the bill comes in as they kept putting up my dd and i was always in credit by at least £50.
  • Mecoconuts
    Mecoconuts Posts: 350 Forumite
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    marcellep wrote: »
    Seen this on Watchdog, maybe MSE team could do a letter for us all?

    I don't think you understand Watchdog's idea.

    I think each individual/household is to send a letter so as to cost the company your complaining to the time and effort for opening and replying to each individual letter.

    So i don't think a single letter from MSE will have the same impact.
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