Can you be sacked for not doing overtime?

falko89

LadyMissA wrote: »

Depends what you think is decent and how often you have to work .
They do not have to pay you.

That'll be the next thing then, guaranteed. I mean really, how can people force you to give up your free time for nothing.

LadyMissA

falko89 wrote: »

That'll be the next thing then, guaranteed. I mean really, how can people force you to give up your free time for nothing.

They can, I know people who do it to keep their jobs.

Working 9-5 then doing free work till 7pm every day meaning they are doing about 6k worth of work a year free.

dandelionclock30

Where I used to work we had to do overtime and then take the time back as time off in leiu.It was also suggested at one point that we worked Saturdays and again claimed the time back. This went down like a lead balloon as most people had kids or other committments.
If I were you Falko I would say Im prepared to do X amount of overtime per week( whats acceptable to you) and just say that you have childcare committments and that your wife works some evenings etc and unfortunatley you cant really do more than that.
Its whats important to you that matters not what other people think.

Phils_debt

Wish i was being asked to do overtime in my job ;instead its gone other way not enough work even for 40 hour week

Welshwoofs

scooby088 wrote: »

Yes but being unhappy and in a job can take just as long to get out of, I see overtime as my time and any hours over my contracted one's would need to be paid at an enhanced rate otherwise i wouldn't entertain OT.

Presumably you work in some job that gives an hourly pay rate?

Many people, like myself, work in a job where you are paid an annual salary to perform a specific role and get no paid overtime (or formal time off in lieu) because the contract states that, where necessary, you will be required to do additional hours as needed.

Over this 4-day weekend I did approximately 15 hours work in order to get part of a project finished before a deadline this Friday as I knew I was taking today and tomorrow off as annual leave. I'm contracted for 40 hours a week and some weeks I do indeed do 40 hours. However some weeks I do 50 or even 60. Back in the dot com boom of the 90s I regularly did 70 or 80 hours a week, whilst actually being paid for 40.

scooby088

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Presumably you work in some job that gives an hourly pay rate?

Many people, like myself, work in a job where you are paid an annual salary to perform a specific role and get no paid overtime (or formal time off in lieu) because the contract states that, where necessary, you will be required to do additional hours as needed.

Over this 4-day weekend I did approximately 15 hours work in order to get part of a project finished before a deadline this Friday as I knew I was taking today and tomorrow off as annual leave. I'm contracted for 40 hours a week and some weeks I do indeed do 40 hours. However some weeks I do 50 or even 60. Back in the dot com boom of the 90s I regularly did 70 or 80 hours a week, whilst actually being paid for 40.

Most salaried people get an overtime figured into their salary, even if i was hourly paid and did the same amount of hours as yourself i would still be a long way from the salary you pick up yearly. Sorry if this is an assumption but in my experience it is true.

LadyMissA

scooby088 wrote: »

Most salaried people get an overtime figured into their salary, even if i was hourly paid and did the same amount of hours as yourself i would still be a long way from the salary you pick up yearly. Sorry if this is an assumption but in my experience it is true.

the people that I know who do unpaid overtime do not have anything figured into their salary. My friend earns £20k a year and does about £6 of overtime a year. His job is not worth as a 9-5 job £14k!

Welshwoofs

scooby088 wrote: »

Most salaried people get an overtime figured into their salary, even if i was hourly paid and did the same amount of hours as yourself i would still be a long way from the salary you pick up yearly. Sorry if this is an assumption but in my experience it is true.

I know of nobody who has overtime figured into their salary. My salary was purely negotiated between me and the CFO based on how we each perceived my value to them as an employee.

Yes, I earn a good salary - but it's nothing to do with overtime 'figured in', it's to do with the responsibilities I have and the skills/experience I bring with me. I do a lot of extra hours, as does everyone else in the company. We do it because it may well pay off in the long run - we all have share options so if it floats we'll be quids in. Working lots of extra hours is very common in the tech industry....those guys at Facebook didn't get rich by doing a 9-5.

scooby088

LadyMissA wrote: »

the people that I know who do unpaid overtime do not have anything figured into their salary. My friend earns £20k a year and does about £6 of overtime a year. His job is not worth as a 9-5 job £14k!

But if your friends job in on 20k a year, with occasional overtime mean not all the time i still would be nowhere near that figure of 20k for the year.

LadyMissA

scooby088 wrote: »

But if your friends job in on 20k a year, with occasional overtime mean not all the time i still would be nowhere near that figure of 20k for the year.

Eh? His contract says 9-5 for the 20k and he works two hours EVERY day unpaid overtime meaning this saves the company about £6k a year for the hours they do not pay him for (10 hours a week)