Can you be sacked for not doing overtime?

earthbound_misfit

ILW wrote: »

The "work to live" thing is a pretty recent idea.

I suppose so, but it depends on the job. There's a world of difference between working alongside friends from your community, or even (as I've seen abroad) spending your time sitting in the sunshine outside your shop, chatting to the neighbours and serving the odd customer... and working for a faceless company staring at a computer screen in a little cubicle.
The jobs I've liked most haven't been the shortest hours - they've been the ones with fantastic colleagues, good managers, and some degree on autonomy in the job.
Also, in the past only one adult would be working so housework and time with the children wasn't being squeezed in around work.

Welshwoofs

earthbound_misfit wrote: »

Incidentally, I remember noticing a few years ago that loads of places were advertising 2 or more identical part-time jobs, and wondered why they didn't just offer 1 full-time.

You can thank working tax credits for that - lots of people wanting to work the minimum number of hours to trigger that particular benefit.

I also blame working tax credits for the lower end of the wage scale remaining low...since employers know the Government will subsidise that employee.

scooby088

Agree with the tax credit keeping the wages at a low rate, maybe abolish them all together.

falko89

scooby088 wrote: »

Agree with the tax credit keeping the wages at a low rate, maybe abolish them all together.

You could do but do you think employers will raise wages to make up the difference? I really doubt it.

falko89

If I was sacked for not doing overtime would I be entitled to JSA? Remember I did not apply for this job or these hours and had I know i'd be hounded regularly for overtime I certainly wouldn't off applied. Is not doing overtime counted as a gross misconduct? I just wanna know where I stand.

LadyMissA

falko89 wrote: »

If I was sacked for not doing overtime would I be entitled to JSA? Remember I did not apply for this job or these hours and had I know i'd be hounded regularly for overtime I certainly wouldn't off applied. Is not doing overtime counted as a gross misconduct? I just wanna know where I stand.

How did you get the job then if you didn't apply for it?

mynameistallulah

falko89 wrote: »

If I was sacked for not doing overtime would I be entitled to JSA? Remember I did not apply for this job or these hours and had I know i'd be hounded regularly for overtime I certainly wouldn't off applied. Is not doing overtime counted as a gross misconduct? I just wanna know where I stand.

If the overtime was legal (i.e. not contravening the WTD), and there was no valid reason for you not doing it (e.g. childcare), then you could be sanctioned for up to twenty six weeks. I would be more concerned with how a prospective employer would see it.

falko89

LadyMissA wrote: »

How did you get the job then if you didn't apply for it?

I applied for a job as a carpenter, £9 per hour, 40 hrs per week, went for the interview only to be told it was gone, It never existed to begin with, I got offered this other job on the spot, min wage of course, 43hrs per week, had it and its details been advertised I doubt many would of applied, and had I turned it down I'd of got my JSA sanctioned.

LadyMissA

falko89 wrote: »

I applied for a job as a carpenter, £9 per hour, 40 hrs per week, went for the interview only to be told it was gone, It never existed to begin with, I got offered this other job on the spot, min wage of course, 43hrs per week, had it and its details been advertised I doubt many would of applied, and had I turned it down I'd of got my JSA sanctioned.

You applied for a job and went to an interview for a job that had been filled? Oh..................how odd. Why did you not turn it down then?

falko89

mynameistallulah wrote: »

If the overtime was legal (i.e. not contravening the WTD), and there was no valid reason for you not doing it (e.g. childcare), then you could be sanctioned for up to twenty six weeks. I would be more concerned with how a prospective employer would see it.

This really does amaze me.