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  • andygb
    andygb Posts: 14,652 Forumite
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    So teaching a child good manners and not to damage property should not begin at home? Please tell me you don't have children!

    :beer:
    Just another example of "someone else to blame" concept, and the parent saying "why should I be responsible?".
  • heartbreak_star
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    I would send the invoice back. I don't think that they have any grounds to ask you to pay.

    Yes the child was being irresponsible but £150 is a big price to pay for that.

    They cannot charge the child as he is a minor so they are effectively trying to charge you as his parent. Except they were in loco parentis at the time not you so surely it is their responsibility.

    This is just "one of those things" that schools need to deal with and they can't try and pass it off to the parents.

    What a pile of tosh. If I'd broken a window at school I would have had a clip round the ear and been made to pay it back. If the kids never learn you end up with anarchy - maybe spare the rod and spoil the child is a bit harsh but there's a grain of truth in it.

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  • vax2002
    vax2002 Posts: 7,187 Forumite
    Amazing how generous people on here are with other peoples money.
    Yeah "you should pay" without even seeing a bill, or finding out if they have already claimed insurance, or if it has come out of the yearly maintenance budget you already paid for in council tax.
    For a money saving forum , it has a lot of people who want to throw money around willy nilly. Especially other peoples.
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  • heartbreak_star
    heartbreak_star Posts: 8,286 Forumite
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    He broke the window = he should pay for the window.

    Nice, simple maths really...the kind they teach you in schools such as the one in question.

    HBS x
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  • vax2002
    vax2002 Posts: 7,187 Forumite
    Who's window is it ?
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  • heartbreak_star
    heartbreak_star Posts: 8,286 Forumite
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    If my son broke my window or a neighbour's window I'd expect him to pay for that...why should it be any different? The reason we have kids running riot is because they have no idea of consequence or discipline these days, and I can't believe I'm using that phrase seeing as I'm only 32...

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  • System
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    Point out to the school that you accept your son is responsible for the damage and should pay.

    Explain that as he only receives £2 per week pocket money then you consider £1 per week as a reasonable repayment rate.
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  • pogofish
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    edited 30 May 2012 at 12:58PM
    I would send the invoice back. I don't think that they have any grounds to ask you to pay.

    Yes the child was being irresponsible but £150 is a big price to pay for that.

    They cannot charge the child as he is a minor so they are effectively trying to charge you as his parent. Except they were in loco parentis at the time not you so surely it is their responsibility.

    This is just "one of those things" that schools need to deal with and they can't try and pass it off to the parents.


    Yes, there isn't a lot a school can do if a parent decides to be uncooperative like that and it would be unlikely the Govs/LA would be willing pursue it any further.

    However there are a few things that schools can do to limit the chance of it happening again that could impact on the child's experience - eg detentions and they could also limit access to activities, trips, social/sports and the like. Which would do him no good in the long run.

    And it would most certainly get the parents labeled as "awkward" or even considered disinterested in their child's discipline and could affect how the school relates to them should any future issues arise.

    Its a two-way street. :)
  • I find it mortifying that you or anyone, as a parent, would consider pushing this back on the school.

    If the school had done something negligent that injured your child or your child's property no doubt you'd be here asking how to rinse them for as much compo as you can get so man up and pay the bill that your child is responsible for and it should teach them a good life lesson too.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
  • Dangermac
    Dangermac Posts: 557 Forumite
    vax2002 wrote: »
    Amazing how generous people on here are with other peoples money.
    Yeah "you should pay" without even seeing a bill, or finding out if they have already claimed insurance, or if it has come out of the yearly maintenance budget you already paid for in council tax.
    For a money saving forum , it has a lot of people who want to throw money around willy nilly. Especially other peoples.

    Providing the amount can be justified (and I dont think that £150 sounds that expensive for a toughened glass window), I dont see why the parents shouldnt pay for it.

    VAX2002 - The next time someone backs into your car, breaks your window etc etc, please remember your comments here.

    DM
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