Please help new mum & benefits have been stopped

epitome

It's already 16:25 have you phoned 08000556688 option 1 option 1
and asked for Income support top up to his IB in his name?

They close at 6pm and they will be very busy right now.

puddy

epitome wrote: »

This is incorrect, you could have gotten Income support ever since you have both lived together with no other income other than his IB and his DLA but the claim has to be in his name. Your being pregnant changes nothing.

out of interest why would this be if she is able bodied, not registered as his carer and available for work? why wouldnt she be expected to work rather than be on someone's IS claim?

epitome

puddy wrote: »

out of interest why would this be if she is able bodied, not registered as his carer and available for work? why wouldnt she be expected to work rather than be on someone's IS claim?

That's the government's doing. If people are claiming because of illness or disability they can also claim for their partners, just like they do on ESA.

I agree its wrong (where there are no young children), but those are the rules.

However in the OPs case it would not be right for her to be expected to look for work with such young children and an incapicated partner.
There are obviously degrees of incapacity but to bring this into the equation would make things too complicated.

puddy

epitome wrote: »

That's the government's doing. If people are claiming because of illness or disability they can also claim for their partners, just like they do on ESA.

I agree its wrong (where there are no young children), but those are the rules.

However in the OPs case it would not be right for her to be expected to look for work with such young children and an incapicated partner.
There are obviously degrees of incapacity but to bring this into the equation would make things too complicated.

no, certainly not now that the children had come along but i was referring to the period before. i am genuinely shocked at the rules. so let me clarify, if someone is on esa, or dla (does it have to be esa or IB or can it just be dla?), they can make a claim for IS to cover them and their partner and the partner can therefore escape requirements to work?

would this be the same if someone was receiving a pension and had a partner of working age with no pension, would the pensioner be able to make the claim to top up their income as a couple?

epitome

If you are claiming for a partner who is not working and you yourself are ill/disabled

If you are making an new venture into benefits...
You would claim ESA IR for you and your partner

If you are a long term claimant of IB and your partner has just moved in with you or lost their job
You would claim Income Support

You would only get these income related benefits if you had savings of less than £16000. Pensions would be deducted £ for £ from your allowance.

DLA is entirely seperate, it is an individuals claim not for a couple and it will be deducted from income related benefits AFAIK pretty sure it is deducted. DLA does not entitle the claimant to claim IS.

If they are of pension age 60+ they stop working ( possibly voluntarily but I dunno) and claim Pension Credit for both £217.90 even if the partner is under 60. However I believe they are closing that loophole soon, can't remember where I heard about this changing.
In the future if the partner is under 60 they either cannot claim PC for both,,,, or the partner has to claim JSA for both not sure on this one as it is a new rule.

Anubis_2

epitome wrote: »

This is incorrect, you could have gotten Income support ever since you have both lived together with no other income other than his IB and his DLA but the claim has to be in his name. Your being pregnant changes nothing.

You are confusing the OP. She was correctly on JSA before the pregnancy as she should have been.

OP, the Welfare rights know the correct information, and they are correct in what they say.

Inform the JC+ that Welfare Rights have confirmed to you that your partner should receive IS topup in his IB and ask to be put through to IS.

skibadee

OP contact the departments you've been advised to ring etc., sometimes it is difficult to understand information given on here, it doesn't help when some people start debating/questioning

epitome

Anubis wrote: »

You are confusing the OP. She was correctly on JSA before the pregnancy as she should have been.

OP, the Welfare rights know the correct information, and they are correct in what they say.

Inform the JC+ that Welfare Rights have confirmed to you that your partner should receive IS topup in his IB and ask to be put through to IS.

Not correct at all, she had a choice that she was apparently never given, either she claims JSA IB or he claims IS. The way I read the OP she became pregnant and "tried to claim for us as a couple" & was told that she *could only* claim JSA and "would have to go to the Jobcentre 3 times a week" (which sounds to me like it was her first experience of JSA) until she was 29weeks. She never actually said she *did* make that claim to JSA. It sounds to me like they were neither on JSA or IS all this time.

It is too simplistic to say "she was correctly on JSA" because she had a choice that she was unaware of, and you don't know that she was even on JSA. And the claim for IS in her name at 29 weeks was a total shambles.

Where was your advice earlier that he could claim IS? I was the only person who told her that. Now, all of a sudden you know this?

She says that welfare rights has said they could get IS from when she was pregnant.....she didn't say in whose name they said the claim would have to be. Assuming she did not get JSA before she was pregnant he could have claimed IS as an alternative all along and there would have had to be no swapping and changing of benefits just because she became 29 weeks pregnant.

This is why I was trying to get her to say -before she became pregnant- what income they had besides the IB & DLA.

You missed this bit then?

mrsiwannabefree wrote: »

Sorry meant to add that I wasn't working as I was caring for my partner, I tried to claim carers but was refused because he's on the lower rate of dla

Also the last two lines of your post are wrong, it will be a new claim to IS and it must be done on the new claims line not through the BC line as I said in post #8

I disagree that I am confusing the OP, what I am trying to do is find out how long she has been missing out and being incorrectly informed.

missapril75

C_Mababejive wrote: »

...with the tremendous heat, i could hardly function and was almost fit to drop when i got home. I;m sure there were plenty like me. My back is broken carrying so many others in this country.

Perhaps you're in need of a safety net before you drop dead.

Anubis_2

epitome wrote: »

Not correct at all, she had a choice that she was apparently never given, either she claims JSA IB or he claims IS. The way I read the OP she became pregnant and "tried to claim for us as a couple" & was told that she *could only* claim JSA and "would have to go to the Jobcentre 3 times a week" (which sounds to me like it was her first experience of JSA) until she was 29weeks. She never actually said she *did* make that claim to JSA. It sounds to me like they were neither on JSA or IS all this time.

It is too simplistic to say "she was correctly on JSA" because she had a choice that she was unaware of, and you don't know that she was even on JSA. And the claim for IS in her name at 29 weeks was a total shambles.

Where was your advice earlier that he could claim IS? I was the only person who told her that. Now, all of a sudden you know this?

She says that welfare rights has said they could get IS from when she was pregnant.....she didn't say in whose name they said the claim would have to be. Assuming she did not get JSA before she was pregnant he could have claimed IS as an alternative all along and there would have had to be no swapping and changing of benefits just because she became 29 weeks pregnant.

This is why I was trying to get her to say -before she became pregnant- what income they had besides the IB & DLA.

You missed this bit then?


Also the last two lines of your post are wrong, it will be a new claim to IS and it must be done on the new claims line not through the BC line as I said in post #8

I disagree that I am confusing the OP, what I am trying to do is find out how long she has been missing out and being incorrectly informed.

As she was unable to claim Carers and her partner had IB which is CB then she was correctly put on JSA. Otherwise she could have claimed IS as a carer had she been allowed the allowance.

Not sure what you are talking about with the BC line - it clearly states on the Gov site to contact Jobcentre Plus - who will then give her the correct number to call if necessary. Additionally, you will see the credentials for IS - as she was refused carers allowance, it cannot be claimed.

JSA was correct for her at the time before she was pregnant as she was fit and healthy and available to work (in the eyes of benefits agency.)

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/On_a_low_income/DG_10018708