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Birds nest

Hi all.

We have a birds nest in the guttering/eaves of our rented house. Before I phone the agent, can anyone advise whose responsibility it is to check it or make repairs once they've moved on?

The contract says we're responsible for dealing with pests like ants or wasps, but birds aren't pests and there's no mention of it.

Thanks.
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  • debsue
    debsue Posts: 467 Forumite
    if there is damage it will probably be the LL. It also depends on the birds, if they are housemartins i think you cant touch the nest.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    If the birds nest is blocking the gutters it will need clearing. Standard property maintenance that the LL is responsible for. Wait for the little ones to fly, then drop the LL a friendly note to let him know.
  • AlecEiffel
    AlecEiffel Posts: 874 Forumite
    Thanks for the replies. I phoned the agency and let them know. They said they'd phone the LL and see what they want to do about it.

    Cheers again.
  • MobileSaver
    MobileSaver Posts: 4,334 Forumite
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    G_M wrote: »
    If the birds nest is blocking the gutters it will need clearing. Standard property maintenance that the LL is responsible for.

    Is this the nanny state we live in that a tenant can't clear their own gutters?!?
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  • RabbitMad
    RabbitMad Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    G_M wrote: »
    If the birds nest is blocking the gutters it will need clearing. Standard property maintenance that the LL is responsible for.

    I'd disagree. Clearing guttering is a small task and one that a tenant should do if acting in a tenant like manner.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    RabbitMad wrote: »
    I'd disagree. Clearing guttering is a small task and one that a tenant should do if acting in a tenant like manner.
    Discussion on this issue in a previous thread

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1053643
  • RabbitMad
    RabbitMad Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    tbs624 wrote: »
    Discussion on this issue in a previous thread

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1053643

    And I agree with Premier - and I feel that most judges would too.

    Fortunately I'm no longer a LL so don't have to put this to the test.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    debsue wrote: »
    if there is damage it will probably be the LL. It also depends on the birds, if they are housemartins i think you cant touch the nest.
    The aim of the Wildlife & Countryside Act of 1981 is to protect birds, their eggs and their nests. It's an offence to" deliberately take, damage or destroy" the nest of any wild bird whilst it is being built or is in use although there are some exceptions ( pigeons being one of them IIRC)
  • AlecEiffel
    AlecEiffel Posts: 874 Forumite
    The landlord has decided to leave the nest/s in the guttering for now as they aren't causing a problem.

    We now however have one in the vent on the cooker extractor! It's a covered vent - sort of three flaps that open when there's airflow and my wife spotted a blackbird perched on the outside of it, lifting the vent flap and feeding a young'un.

    She spotted that on Monday morning so I phoned the agent that afternoon who agreed it wasn't good and said they'd phone the LL. Last night the kitchen started to smell a bit (lovely) and the cooker extractor has stopped working.

    So it's obviously a hygiene and health & safety issue. How quickly can we expect this to be dealt with (we won't cook in the kitchen now and will keep the door closed as it stinks)? Who gives 'authority' to move the nest? Obviously it's the LL's responsibility but I would like to be a bit more informed when I chase them up today!!

    Thanks.
  • AlecEiffel
    AlecEiffel Posts: 874 Forumite
    Well the letting agency had little interest.

    We spoke to the RSPB who confirmed it's illegal to touch the nest regardless. To stop the stench (at the RSPB's advice) I've had to tape polythene over the internal vents of the extraction system. That's stopped the worst of it for now.

    Can anyone confirm who's responsibility it is in the long term? My argument would be that the birds have circumvented the external protection for the venting system and therefore it's a structural issue - it's not like an ant hill in the garden, the only way to clear it is to pull bits off the house externally and maybe internally and clear out the nest, then fit a basket grill over the outside.

    Can anyone confirm on this please??
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