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BPA tells lies to Government - here is the proof!
bargepole
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In the lead up to the Protection of Freedoms Act (2012), the Government carried out an impact assessment. During this, the BPA claimed that, of the 1.8 million private parking tickets issued annually, some 36,000 ended up as County Court Claims. They therefore persuaded the honourable members that the introduction of Schedule 4, Clause 56, would have the impact of reducing the number of court cases.
I've now had an answer back from the Ministry of Justice, following an FoI request, and these are their figures for 01/01/2011 - 31/12/2011:
Number of Money Claims issued by AOS scheme members = 845
Number of those which proceeded to a hearing in front of a Judge = 49
Number of above resulting in award to Claimant = 24
(These figures may be a slight undercount due to issues with typographical errors by individual Court staff, but are broadly correct, allowing for the fact that some may not relate to parking issues)
So: We can accurately calculate percentages as follows:-
Chances of a PPC ticket resulting in a Court Claim = 845/1.8m = 0.047%
Chances of actually going to Court = 49/1.8m = 0.0027%
Chances of losing in Court = 0.0013%
Keep on ignoring!
I've now had an answer back from the Ministry of Justice, following an FoI request, and these are their figures for 01/01/2011 - 31/12/2011:
Number of Money Claims issued by AOS scheme members = 845
Number of those which proceeded to a hearing in front of a Judge = 49
Number of above resulting in award to Claimant = 24
(These figures may be a slight undercount due to issues with typographical errors by individual Court staff, but are broadly correct, allowing for the fact that some may not relate to parking issues)
So: We can accurately calculate percentages as follows:-
Chances of a PPC ticket resulting in a Court Claim = 845/1.8m = 0.047%
Chances of actually going to Court = 49/1.8m = 0.0027%
Chances of losing in Court = 0.0013%
Keep on ignoring!
I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
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The filthy scammers! spread the word everyone and help save many poor people of there scarce hard earned money.PPCs say its carpark management, BPA say its raising standards..... we all know its just about raking in the revenue. :eek:0
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But 845 is less than 36,000. See it's working already, and it hasn't even been introduced.
And, of course, according to our mysterious recent visitor, it won't include all the cases that the judge hasn't told the MOJ about.
The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in my life.
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The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0
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Very well done on getting this invaluable information.
So the odds of being taken to court by a private parking company are more than 2130 to 1. A horse with three legs in the grand national would have better odds than this.
And the actual number of cases taken to court is less than 2.35% of that reported to the Ministry by the BPA.
A shocking lie by people who do not seem to have any morals. Shame on them.0 -
Surely we should bring this to the attention of our MP's who will be voting on this issue.
can we get a picture of the FOI request ?
So we can copy it and write to our MP's pointing out the misleading information they have been presented with ?Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
and an awful lot less than 36,000.

Cheers
Oops. Corrected.
ripped_off_driver wrote: »
<snip> A shocking lie [STRIKE]by[/STRIKE] to people who do not seem to have any morals. Shame on them.
Fixed for you.
The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in my life.
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Not that I want to be a party-pooper, but there is an important variable missing from those calculations, which makes the 'odds' understated...0
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Horses and stable doors i'm afraid.:rotfl:Surely we should bring this to the attention of our MP's who will be voting on this issue.
can we get a picture of the FOI request ?
So we can copy it and write to our MP's pointing out the misleading information they have been presented with ?I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0 -
So the BPA are liars then......
What a surprise
A big lie toHi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
Is information laid before a parliamentary committee on oath To the Queen ?
An act of treason to lie ?Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0
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