a strange question on jsa

dan160987

Hi guys

As you can see from my previos threads I am very new to the world of jsa.
My partner recently had a claim accepted and has receiv the first payment. She has also received a job offer!

The job is as an education mentor for looked after children. She will be working as and when needed for short periods of time (3hrs per child)
This could be one child one week, none for the next two months. Etc.the rate of pay is a massive £25 per hour. So if she sees 1chold she will lose jsa that week which is fair. However I need to know if she will lose it altogethrt? If she did it would not be worth doing the work and holding put for a more reliable role

Any help greatly appreciated!

Anubis_2

If its over the amount of JSA she receives after tax apart from £5 she will loose it presuming she is on contribution based JSA and it's a single claim? Or does she claim with you as a couple? If it is a couple claim, income related she will be allowed to earn £10.00

You might find this link useful http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/benefits_e/benefits_benefits_in_work_or_looking_for_work_ew/benefits_for_people_looking_for_work.htm

To claim Jobseeker's Allowance, you must either not be working at all, or working less than 16 hours a week. If you are living with a partner and claiming income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance, your partner must either not be working or working less than 24 hours a week. If you or your partner are working 16 hours or more, you may be able to get Working Tax Credit instead.

If you are working under 16 hours, or your partner is working under 24 hours, the amount of Jobseeker's Allowance you can get will depend on your earnings. If you earn too much, you will not be able to get contribution-based Jobseeker's Allowance. You will also have to look for a full-time job as part of the conditions of getting Jobseeker's Allowance. Your partner may have to look for full-time work as well.

Pont

Not much to add except zero hours contracts are pants!

epitome

Lets say she gets the job.
Lets say it is an irregular contract "as and when required"

She knows that she will be working next on 25th May for 1 day

She has a signing on card (ES40) inside the signing on card there are forms to fill out to sign off JSA She completes the relevant section to say she requires her last day of JSA to be 24th May, with the reason "starting work"
On 26th May she phones up 08000556688 and makes a Rapid Reclaim to JSA to start from 26th May.

Now lets say, the work is regular 1 child per week (3hours per week) she will be eaning £75 per week regularly and will therefore not be entitled to JSA.

Now lets say it's 1 child per fortnight, then I would suggest the same scenario as "irregular work" applies

dookar

epitome wrote: »

Lets say she gets the job.
Lets say it is an irregular contract "as and when required"

She knows that she will be working next on 25th May for 1 day

She has a signing on card (ES40) inside the signing on card there are forms to fill out to sign off JSA She completes the relevant section to say she requires her last day of JSA to be 24th May, with the reason "starting work"
On 26th May she phones up 08000556688 and makes a Rapid Reclaim to JSA to start from 26th May.

Now lets say, the work is regular 1 child per week (3hours per week) she will be eaning £75 per week regularly and will therefore not be entitled to JSA.

Now lets say it's 1 child per fortnight, then I would suggest the same scenario as "irregular work" applies

Not quite, in each of these scenarios she is not working sufficient hours to affect her entitlement, merely reduce her applicable amount to zero. The importance of this is that there is no need to go through the rigmarole of ending a claim and making a new one (no such thing as a rapid reclaim), she merely declares her work and earnings and her applicable amount is adjusted accordingly

dan160987

Hi anubis, thanks for the help, just a little more info, we are not making a joint claim, it is contributions based jsa.

Epitome. That seems a long winded way to keep claiming so its probably the right way he won't be working above the threshold of 16 hours

Dookar that is what I was hoping. Obv we don't mind losing the jsa for tge weeks she has work, but would like tge safety net not to.be pulled away until she finds full time

work.

Also would my partner be classed as self employed or a casual worker?

If anybody has any other thoughts please advise

epitome

dookar wrote: »

Not quite, in each of these scenarios she is not working sufficient hours to affect her entitlement, merely reduce her applicable amount to zero. The importance of this is that there is no need to go through the rigmarole of ending a claim and making a new one (no such thing as a rapid reclaim), she merely declares her work and earnings and her applicable amount is adjusted accordingly

She should only be on (JSA) £56.25 per week, if she earns £75 I'm fairly certain the claim would be closed, would it not?

What do you mean no such thing as a Rapid Reclaim?

dookar

epitome wrote: »

She should only be on (JSA) £56.25 per week, if she earns £75 I'm fairly certain the claim would be closed, would it not?

What do you mean no such thing as a Rapid Reclaim?

No, entitlement is not affected, she would simply be EIOR.

A rapid reclaim is an administrative concept, not a legal one. In terms of legislation there is no such thing, merely 'an appropriate form recognised by the secretary of state'. As far as a claimant is concerned there is no such thing.

May seem a petty distinction but it's an important one in terms of expectations

dan160987

Sorry dookar, what is eior? Does it matter that my partner has to invoice for her work?

Thanks so much again guys

dookar

'excess income over requirements' basically she earns more than the benefit would pay.

there is no condition of entitlement based on income, only number of hours worked (16), so entitlement continues and the claim remains open just no money is payable

dan160987

fantastic,

dookar is this certain or your opinion/thoughts?

the first 3 hours is on tuesday and i would hate for her to lose the jsa for 1 days pay.
there is a possibility she could do the role on a voluntary basis but she would like to be "earning" some money for prides sake whilst she continues to search for fulll time employment,

also if she say works week ending the 27th but doesnt get paid till the week ending the 15th of next month i which week would the jsa be reduced (to zero)

cheers

dan