any advice regarding sale of vehicle at auction and problems

DELLBOY_2

People buy from auctions to buy cheap ,the reason they are cheaper is the lack of backup ...
Did the car drive?
did it sound ok ?
does he know anything about cars ?

vax2002

The term a fool and their money are quickly parted was coined at a car auction, looks like he was bidding against the wall as well.
these places are not for the inexperienced, they will smell you a mile away.

fivetide

Notmyrealname wrote: »

No. Auctions are all caveat emptor sold as seen. .

Some offer an initial 30 mins to an hour to uncover any major faults. Given the OP says they noticed issues whilst still at the auction that was the time to investigate the issues. Worth noting for others looking to do the same.

5t.

wrightk

vax2002 wrote: »

Put it back through !

because he is not that heartless

vaio

Notmyrealname wrote: »

No. Auctions are all caveat emptor sold as seen. The auctioneer will have said that there is no guarantee to the state of the vehicle and that it is up to the purchaser to ensure they check the vehicle. They will have made absolutely no comments about the condition of the vehicle.........

Yep and the OP has accepted there was no mechanical warranty with the vehicle, his gripe is about the fact that it was held up as coming direct from a dealer

Notmyrealname wrote: »

.......Rubbish. No auction I have ever been to has said where the vehicle has come from. Auctions are where dealers send the P/Xs and the lemons.

Don't know what sort of auctions you go to but every one I've ever been to always mentions when a vehicle is direct from a dealer. Just look at the sale catalogues on BCA to see what I mean.

I suppose the reason they do that is because, whilst there are no guaranties, a part ex from a dealer on average is likely to be there because it's not just not forecourt stock quality whereas a privately entered car is likely to be there because it's faulty and couldn't be sold or part exed.

marlot

wrightk wrote: »

... i know that if you buy from dealers through auctions the quality is good as a dealer has a reputation to maintain..

Sounds like you've been lucky in the past.

Stock from dealers can be good if its just been on the lot too long.

And they can be a good source for cars from people trading in cars which are OK but a bit old for the dealer to retail.

But any dogs which they take in will also go to the auction.

mikey72

s_b wrote: »

cheap car initially as they always are
i often advise the common man not to buy at auction unless they are wiling to take a big hit like we have to in the trade
yes ive often been offered a dud with a main agent sticker in the window but when you have done the job long enough there are plenty of ways to spot a legger
as for your friend then basically nothing to be done how does he even know its wasnt px into a dealer has he spoken to last owner in log book to start a trail
end of the day its the modern world these large auctions arent there to help anyone they are there to empty your pockets

can i suggest next time your friend buys from an established local independant recommended dealer who would not try and pass a lemon on like this but would buff it up to kingdom come and stick it in an auction,i even know one trader who nicks main dealer stickers and if a representative of the auction is not present he slips a driver to stick his bad un in the middle of this main dealer flow
its always happened but when i try and advise people not to buy at auction unless100% savvy the likes of mikey 72 sgt pauper and not my real name because im in care try to put me down and say ah but your a trader
maybe but always willing to give advise and probably stood behind you in netto on a night trying to save a bob just like you

one final note

caveat umpar you will never prove fraud its too late and wouldnt get you anywhere

Anything useful to say, or just a quick gloat at someone else's misfortune, and yet more drum banging and support your local dealer rubbish?To the op though, the only people who can advise would be the auction house, if it's been misrepresented, what do they say?

vaio

maybe needs amplification but the gist of it was given in post #5

wrightk wrote: »

..... the terms and conditions of the auction house state ;

if a sufficiently material representation has been made, to rescind in accordance with clause 46a or alternatively (and in all other circumstances where not a sufficiently material misrepresentation) to retain posession of the goods and claim for any losses directly suffered by the purchaser..........

verityboo

wrightk wrote: »

the car was presented as being entered by the main citroen dealer

Was this is writing or an assumption you made. It would seem reasonable for an auction house to group vehicles together and perhaps put a privately entered citroen in with other citroens (that happen to have been entered by a main dealer?)

wrightk

verityboo wrote: »

Was this is writing or an assumption you made. It would seem reasonable for an auction house to group vehicles together and perhaps put a privately entered citroen in with other citroens (that happen to have been entered by a main dealer?)

it had a massive citroen sticker in the window firstly (with the name of the local dealer it puported to come from) it was also listed on the internet and in the cataloque as being from this local dealer and mentioned by the autioneer as coming from this dealer.

i cant say i appreciate some of the 'your fault' comments. we understood the risks at auction and are familiar with the concept of sold as seen thankyou but take away the mechanical condition of the car for just a moment, i am asking about the misrepresentation that has been made at the point of sale.