dog nipped someone, what to expect next?

gettingready

krlyr wrote: »

I think mandragora ws playing devil's advocate, i.e. the OP's situation from the jogger's POV.

I certainly hope so ...

I have developed a little pet hate (LOL) towards joggers that CAN be terribly inconsiderate.

I have massive, massive OPEN green space right wher I live - so often I will walk Zara on a lead and a jogger (or few) will run straight at us.

I do not mean not seeing/round the bushes/from behind a tree but in a massive OPEN space where they can 360 view of everything/everyone around.

It is much easier for them to see me with a large dog on a lead and slightly change direction/angle then for me to hold a big dog just because they decide to run few inches from the dog.

I am lucky that Zara does not care about joggers/bikers etc BUT I still hate it.

It is so much a case that everyoe should be considerate to everyone else but they are not...

Person_one

gettingready wrote: »

It is so much a case that everyoe should be considerate to everyone else but they are not...

Its not all joggers, just like not all dog walkers are inconsiderate, or even all cyclists (shocking, I know!)

I'm a regular dog walker, not quite regular enough runner, occasional pram pusher and very very occasional cyclist.

Everybody's hated me at one time or another, I expect.

gettingready

I never said "all are incosiderate"...

BUt then again everyone's idea about "being considerate" is different

*Scarlett

I think that this person who was bitten / nipped was probably a bit shocked and may have over reacted. You may hear nothing more about it.

If you do, you (or the dog owner) are probably covered on your home insurance for any personal liabilty claim that this person may make. Check your policy.

HeatherintheHills

Hmmm, if the joggers ran round a corner at full pelt, they carry some of the responsibility.

They barged into a young woman and a westie, but it could easily have been a mum with a little one in a buggy and a toddler in hand, someone in a wheelchair or someone with mobility issues easily unbalanced by such inconsiderate behaviour.

I think they would be mad to try to take it further.

"mandragora playing devils advocate" - slow down before running round corners and potentially injuring someone with your inconsiderate behaviour. The young woman and the dog were the innocents on the pavement in this scenario. (cyclist on footpath, joggers running blindly round a corner, both were in the wrong) The dog reacted to a perceived immediate threat to itself and the human it was with. Just be glad it wasn't a much bigger dog.

mandragora_2

*Scarlett wrote: »

I think that this person who was bitten / nipped was probably a bit shocked and may have over reacted. You may hear nothing more about it.

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HeatherintheHills wrote: »

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I think they would be mad to try to take it further.
The dog reacted to a perceived immediate threat to itself and the human it was with. Just be glad it wasn't a much bigger dog.

The whole tenor of the replies is just amazing. Of course, I wasn't the runner on this occasion. Of course, we all need to take care as we're out and about. I put the other perspective simply because I thought it needed saying. The dog bit someone. Don't be surprised if the dog warden comes calling.

In a different situation, I was riding my bike down a back road - two terriers came racing out of their garden and ran at me - it ended up with me off my bike, using it as a shield to fend them off. They didn't bite me - or even nip me - but I have no doubt they would have if they could have got near enough. I was very frightened - and angry. The first thing I did when I got home was report them to the dog warden. I now don't go down that lane when I'm cycling, because, despite the warden's visit to them, they still leave the gate open and the dogs run free. I'm not a fool - I don't fancy being harrassed by dogs so I avoid the situation, but why should I have to?

I'm not -anti-dog' (and have spent years as a volunteer dog walker and have fostered them, too) - or pro-carelessness. But I think people have underestimated the shock of a dog going for you. That's all. I just thought the point needed making. S'up to you, I guess - reading the OP's posts, it's clear that she has done exactly the right thing in response, by making sure that she is the one taking the dog out now, and that she is capable of fully controlling it in public.

Sally_A

.......and if these joggers had turned out to be muggers, the dog would have been a hero.

Poor dogs, have to make a quick decision, as one of their urges is to protect their human, if they sense possible danger.

I had similar when a cross country jogger jumped out of a bush; after the runner had had a pop at me, I said what do you expect leaping out of bushes like that? He accepted the dog was protecting me, and I was more mindful of my dog around runners afterwards.

If it does go any further, and I doubt it will, put it in the hands of your home insurers, there is often cover under the Personal Public Liability for domestic pets, and let your insurers legal team defend you.

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Has the dog's owners ever mentioned a problem with joggers? I found out mine had a problem with joggers the first time one ran past when he was off-lead and he hoofed it after them. He didn't try and bite or anything, but 12 stone of Mastiff in hot pursuit scared the bejesus out of the jogger. Now if I see a jogger I slip him on a short lead until they're past.

I'll bet the jogger logged a personal best time for the route, though.

Crisp_£_note

Similar thing happend to me once. Narrow alleyway walking one of our dogs (a greyhound cross, our dog was muzzled as he was taught to chase rabbits before he was rehomed) up it. A man appeared at top of alley proceeding to march towards us with a King Charles and could see me struggling to hold our dog back (we had not had him long so still working on behaviour). Before I had chance to shout out please wait till we pass the man was halfway down the alley and me and my dog had to dive into a bush to let him and his dog past! Our dog was making a hullabaloo howling as he could see the small dog but couldnt get at it. Man starts shouting up the alley accusing me and my dog of being a public nuisance and that my dog had attacked his dog who had only just undrgone an operation on its eye! Ludicrous! Anyway I offered to man our dog insurance details if he wished to persue a claim, all he needed to do was give me his telephone number and I would phone them up and register it. Man continues to shout and accuse whilst continuing to march off down the alley, I didnt need to claim and shouldnt have to as nothing happend except the mans stupidity not to think that because we were there first it would be sensible if not polite to announce he would simply wait in view at top entrance of alley for us to pass. After all I do! After this I was also in floods of tears and struggled home with dog. I havent ever taken them out since and thats now hubzys job! Some people just like to cause a scene without realising the consequences to others !

shandyclover

We haven't heard anything further, though we could still get a visit from the dog warden next week. We met him a few months ago as he came to pick up a staffie that followed us home from the woods one day. Staffie was happily reunited with owners who had lost her that morning.

Westie has been out and about since then just with me. He's shown no further signs of aggression, in fact he still gets stopped in the street by admirers and is all friendly with them. I am a lot more cautious though, and watch him very closely to make sure he is not startled nor feels threatened, if some one comes thundering towards us I just hold him aside and let them pass.

In starting this thread I did not want to come out anti jogger or anything like than. I too am an overweight jogger that frequents a woods many people take their dogs for walks to, I do however alter my route, slow down, pause or cross over to avoid people with dogs, as some dogs will just playfully run along with you. Some of the trauma could have been avoided if these 2 ladies had used a bit of common sense and not insisted on staying 2 abreast to continue their conversation while expecting both cyclist and DD and westie to get out of the way.