MSE News: Half a million could lose disability benefits

Dunroamin

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Depression is not easy to fake. I certainly couldn't fool anyone into thinking I'm depressed when I'm not and those around me often know when I am depressed long before I would admit to it.

We'll have to agree to differ then, as my experience is the opposite.

guilds

evenasus wrote: »

Bipolar is another popular one.

I never new we had so many Monday morning Dr/Consultants on the forum

The people who moan and seem to enjoy bashing the genuine people due to 0.5% fraud (and yes it not right) you need to turn your attention to the £5.2 billion pounds Tax evasion made by the rich.
My last tax bill was just over £43,000:eek: yes I am earning it to pay it, I play a straight game, and it sickens me the way the government deflect crap on to the working class, if I can pay my tax so should everyone else, also if we apply the benefit basher logic to taxpayers due to those who avoid paying tax, most taxpayers are fiddling the system.
A very small minority spoil it for the majority

Dunroamin

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

I've often heard that people claim to have "bad backs" but surely if someone was truly in such pain they would have consultants letters, MRI scans, strong pain medication etc as evidence. I'm sure you can't just say you've got a bad back and then claim benefits.

Surely there's often very little physical evidence of someone having a "bad back"? Being prescribed strong pain killers proves nothing.

Mojisola

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Depression is not easy to fake. I certainly couldn't fool anyone into thinking I'm depressed when I'm not and those around me often know when I am depressed long before I would admit to it.

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

You think people can fake being bipolar??? Heard it all now!! :rotfl: :rotfl:

Just shows the misconceptions people have and obviously very little experience of real mental illness.

You don't have to live all the time as if you've got the illness - you only need to fill in the forms giving the right answers, visit the GP regularly, collect but don't take any medication that prescribed and keep up the sham when you go for your assessment.

~Chameleon~

Mojisola wrote: »

You don't have to live all the time as if you've got the illness - you only need to fill in the forms giving the right answers, visit the GP regularly, collect but don't take any medication that prescribed and keep up the sham when you go for your assessment.

Do you seriously think all those with a serious mental illness have to do is collect a regular prescription from their GP?!

No wonder there are so many benefit bashers around if they all have similar views! *shakes head in disbelief*

~Chameleon~

Dunroamin wrote: »

Surely there's often very little physical evidence of someone having a "bad back"? Being prescribed strong pain killers proves nothing.

I wouldn't know, I've never suffered with a bad back. I have however suffered an extremely painful condition (now resolved thankfully) which required me to have MRIs, physio and opiate medication. I would imagine someone claiming to have a bad back would go through a similar process to receive a diagnosis.

schrodie

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Do you seriously think all those with a serious mental illness have to do is collect a regular prescription from their GP?!

No wonder there are so many benefit bashers around if they all have similar views! *shakes head in disbelief*

They do say that 'ignorance is bliss' so given the number of benefit bashers here on MSA there's a hell of a lot of people living in total bliss!

Mojisola

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Do you seriously think all those with a serious mental illness have to do is collect a regular prescription from their GP?!

No wonder there are so many benefit bashers around if they all have similar views! *shakes head in disbelief*

No, but some people are willing to put on an act as and when necessary in order to claim benefits they aren't entitled to.

Just because they do that doesn't in any way denigrate the very real problems that people who really have that illness have to cope with.

I'm far from a benefit basher. My son is trying to fill in the forms for ESA yet again - he is unable to work or to live independently but convincing the relevant authorities of it is not easy.

evenasus

Dunroamin wrote: »

Surely there's often very little physical evidence of someone having a "bad back"? Being prescribed strong pain killers proves nothing.

Especially when they don't really need/take them.

Dunroamin

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

I wouldn't know, I've never suffered with a bad back. I have however suffered an extremely painful condition (now resolved thankfully) which required me to have MRIs, physio and opiate medication. I would imagine someone claiming to have a bad back would go through a similar process to receive a diagnosis.

A "bad back" is notoriously difficult to diagnose or find a cause. If someone wanted to claim benefits, don't you think that they could go through the process whether they were genuine or not?