MSE News: Half a million could lose disability benefits

ineed

Breast_Cancer_Survivor wrote: »

Actually you have to fill in an IB50 every year, then they decide whether you need to be re assessed or not depending on the information you have given.

Really, you had to fill in a form every year? I've never had to fill in any reassessment for IB, just DLA. It worries me a bit so I phone them if there are any changes, just so they know.

I keep expecting the ESA forms every time I get a letter but it's always just a tax certificate or a letter about the increase in benefits.

Breast_Cancer_Survivor

ineed wrote: »

Really, you had to fill in a form every year? I've never had to fill in any reassessment for IB, just DLA. It worries me a bit so I phone them if there are any changes, just so they know.

I keep expecting the ESA forms every time I get a letter but it's always just a tax certificate or a letter about the increase in benefits.

Maybe it depends on what your illness is & whether it's deemed you might improve.

I've never had to go for another assessment but filled my annual form in & sent it off in December as usual.

ineed

Breast_Cancer_Survivor wrote: »

Maybe it depends on what your illness is & whether it's deemed you might improve.

I've never had to go for another assessment but filled my annual form in & sent it off in December as usual.

Yeah maybe your right and it depends on your condition, doesn't seem very fair though. I always thought it was a bit strange that I didn't even have to fill in anything.

Popperwell

I know all this worries me but I really do try to live day to day(easier said than done)My condition won't improve and will probably get worse but the new assessmenets don't take into account...pain/fatigue or allow you to submit information from your Dr or Consultant. And one thing we do know is that the replacement benefit to DLA is to be reduced by 20% which is bad enough but then they are raising the criteria for receiving it so you have to be more ill to get it!

There are going to be many genuine people affected by this...DLA is not easy to get in the fiorst place and it is not claimed asfraudiently as the media would have us believe and that's from statitistics collected by the DWP itself...

Tobermory

Sangio, I hope you will be reporting the three people you know that are 'at it'.

melbury

Breast_Cancer_Survivor wrote: »

Actually you have to fill in an IB50 every year, then they decide whether you need to be re assessed or not depending on the information you have given.

Well no wonder the system needs a complete overhaul.

Whenever I have mentioned anything like this on here I get my head bitten off and told that it was just as difficult to get IB as it is to get ESA - what a load of crap - of course it wasn't and that is why so many are so worried that they won't be entitled to ESA.

I think everyone on IB should have to go through the same rigorous checks as those applying for ESA - after all it is only fair.

CTcelt1988

sangio wrote: »

No it doesn't!!! I took out a Motability lease in December 2011 and have spoken to them about handing it back. not only will they take it back with no penalty, but they have said that I would get some of my advance payment back as well!!

Errr yes of course they would have to buy the adaptions. Maybe however, do a deal with a similar model and make when buying a car then you can remove the controls out of the Motability car and put them straight into your own car!!

On the other hand, why not make an offer to the garage for the car you have just handed back. They have to be sold, why don't you buy it.

There is a termination fee if you terminate early, but it is up to Motability's discretion. I wanted to terminate my contract in 2009 but was told that I had to pay £250.

It is not the garage that you buy the car from, you have to get a quote from Motability if you intend on buying it at the end of the lease. Unfortuntely, Motability tend to offer a higher price then it would go to at an auction. At the moment, I cannot afford to buy a car outright, so have ordered another car on the scheme. It will be at least 2014 till I get accessed, so I have at least two years of the car. What happens after that, I dont know.

Tobermory

sangio wrote: »

I don't get involved! It's there business, not mine. Besides which all are members of my extended family.

It is your duty as a citizen to report all benefit theft. The money your extended family have stolen should be going to genuine claiments.

Here is the number, 0800 854 440, it is free and confidential.

If everyone who 'knows someone that is at it' helped stamp out the fraudsters then perhaps the people that really need help would not receive such abuse and suspicion.

Shame on you for allowing it to happen.

Edinburghlass_2

sangio wrote: »

I agree with you entirely - it was easy street on IB.

I was surprised myself how easy it was at the time. The DWP accepted my application form (IB50) and medical certificates and that was it for 7 years! After 12 months, I seem to remember, I was put on the long term rate and forgotten about.

Ironically during the last 2 years or so when on IB, I started some voluntary work as a deputy farm manager/support carer and tutor. It started off with 15 hours a week but by the end of the 2 years I was working upwards of 50 hours a week. I only received expenses and a free lunch.
The job role was deputising in running a mixed farm, tractor driver, care worker (the farm was also a residential home for disabled adaults) and tutor teaching the residents how to look after agricultural animals, drive machinery, and pig, sheep and cattle husbandry etc.

I was actually working harder than when I was before I became ill.

It was all orgainised by the Shawe Trust so I assume everything was above board - no one ever questioned it.

Mmmm............

uponahill wrote: »

Sounds to me like another Shawe Trust or Royal British Legion, both of which were totally useless.

Shawe Trust found me a voluntary job years ago, for 1 day a week 4 hours.
as a farm hand.

After over 2 years on this, I was working over 50 hours a week for nothing (apart from travelling expenses) and worked Christmas Day because no one else would do it - the animals had to be fed and cleaned out 24/7.

The whole experience nearly killed me and put me back years in recovery.

Tobermory

Sangio, or whoever you are, don't change the subject, I realise you are unlikely to report the crime, therefore you condone benefit theft. At least for the criminals you know personally.

If indeed the scenario exists. Most probably it is made up to support your claims of widespread benefit abuse as per your other threads.

I posted the telephone number so that other people, that do have a conscience, may want to use it.