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MSE News: Fuel duty 'could rocket' to reduce Treasury shortfall

Former_MSE_Helen
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This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:
"Motorists could face a 50% rise in fuel duty in future years to cover a £13 billion hole ..."
"Motorists could face a 50% rise in fuel duty in future years to cover a £13 billion hole ..."
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"This isn't scaremongering. The Treasury has already announced a review of VED bands to ensure drivers make a fair contribution to the public finances even as cars become more fuel-efficient."
So how will taxing liquid fuels get the (supposedly) tens of thousands of new electric car owners to make a 'fair contribution'?
Surely taxing a fuel that is becoming unfashionable will be the wrong direction for road financing.
So yet again we find the Government using a 'green' excuse to manipulate what we do through lower taxation, followed by higher taxation on the end result. First encourage people to buy diesel for better mpg and then wack higher duty on it than petrol. Potential electric car owners should take note, they will find some way to get the cash out of you.0 -
well, i was saying this would happen a few years ago when the previous government were reducing VED to £30 a year or even nil for cars that were more fuel efficient, I mean, come on, if everyone bought those cars and the revenue from VED suddenly dried up where would this revenue then come from? people were naive if they think they can get out of paying this tax in one form or another.
The revenue is needed whether we like it or not and the motorist will always pay a high price, the previous and current government can hide behind green taxes all they like, but if we all suddenly stopped using cars tomorrow, they would probably add the taxation onto the very air we breathe to gnaw it backAug GC £63.23/£200, Total Savings £00 -
If a govt, especially one of ours encourages you do do something then look for the sting, one thing thats guaranteed is they do not have the electorates interests at heart..
They've been encouraging the ownership of ever smaller fuel efficient cars for years, even allowing the better ones free VED, and the people have done as they were bidden.
No one in their right mind could imagine the gorging beast that is the UK and EU govts would seriously want you to contribute less in taxes, that was never the agenda.
Increased VED and fuel taxes will be but a temporary phase....the real agenda is to monitor all road use and charge you accordingly....the recently floated idea of selling off the roads is the key...then when the privateers overcharge you for the use of, the govt of the day can make grand speeches condemning them.
The best thing about road pricing is that as a by product it gives complete monitoring of the populace.
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I wouldnt mind if they were just honest about it!
Private roads/toll roads work. Look at the M6 Toll... I love it and its worth the price for me, and if I dont use it, I dont have to pay for its upkeep.
Look at the toll roads in France - always a pleasure to drive, well maintained, and guess what? you pay for what you use.0 -
richard734 wrote: »Private roads/toll roads work. Look at the M6 Toll... I love it and its worth the price for me, and if I dont use it, I dont have to pay for its upkeep.
Look at the toll roads in France - always a pleasure to drive, well maintained, and guess what? you pay for what you use.
M6 road toll failure - motorists refusing to pay to travel
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only concern for me is I would not be able to afford to travel to work and please do not patronise me by saying use public transport as there is none for some of the start and finish times I do . and 28 miles is a little to far to walk or cycle each way. I am working on moving closer to work because of travel costs etc fingers crossed that happens sooner rather than later as already seen a massive raise in costs in past 7 months since I have been moved to this office when the one I worked in closed.I am responsible me, myself and I alone I am not the keeper others thoughts and words.0
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I am hoping I can continue working from home lemontart - cos I have now got to the position that the car will be sold as soon as DS1 leaves Primary School this June. Simply can't justify keeping it with the additional taxes.
So Chancellor will just have to magic an "Economic Recovery" without my contribution from here on in.
.................. until they start taxing cycles and kids scooters I suppose.
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Spot the vested interest - RAC Foundation! It also conveniently ignores the fact that whilst petrol/diesel consumption may be falling, fuel duty hasn't fallen, prices have risen, on which VAT is calculated, plus VAT has gone from 17.5% to 20%. I somehow doubt the Treasury is losing as much as claimed!Adventure before Dementia!0
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It would be easier if they just bit the bullet and put another 2p on the lower rate of income tax.0
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I am for and against road usage monitoring in equal measure. As Jeremy Clarkson once said, if they have a little black box in every car in england, they can tell where you are, where you are heading, and what speed you're going. Bye Bye speed cameras, hello fixed penalty black box fines.
However - the idea of being able to pay for the little amount of road I use (7 miles a day) to- and from- work, sounds like a very good and economical idea. It would also allow those with two cars to pay only for the car they are using, and not overpay for the luxury.
An example is this - you buy a small citroen C1 for fuel economy and eco 'green-ness'.. but you also go away once a month in your 19ft 1000kg caravan - so you need a larger towcar, which you only use to tow that caravan. yes, put a higher rate per mile on more thirsty cars, but I will still be saving money because my thirsty car is on the drive most of the month while the eco-sipper is running me to and from work for almost no emissions."One cool judgment is worth a thousand hasty counsels. The thing to do is to supply light and not heat."
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