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bottom button of waistcoat at a wedding?

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  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    ianbar0 wrote: »
    we have been told that you shouldn't button up your bottom button on your waistcoat? the other story we was told is not to button it up until the wedding ceremony is done?

    This, along with other cutting issues, is featuring on News at Ten tonight I believe.

    It's just 'etiket' innit? Who cares at the end of the day? People confuse manners and etiquette. I have a friend who thinks he's the most well-mannered person you can meet. He prides himself on knowing all these little things, like how to hold your wine glass, how not to cut the cheese, how to wear your waistcoat buttons etc..

    Problem is, he's just a raging snob who, rather than show how well-mannered he is by adhering to all these pointless traditions, actually demonstrates how rude he is by endlessly pointing out perceived deficiencies in other people's manners.

    I'm not suggesting you're like this for a moment, OP. You're simply asking a question about wedding etiquette, the answer to which might be mildly interesting I guess.

    I'm just trying to say none of it matters. Real manners are about making those around you feel comfortable, not which of your buttons you do, or don't, have fastened on your waistcoat.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • aliasojo
    aliasojo Posts: 23,053 Forumite
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    edited 15 May 2012 at 3:19PM
    What an absolute load of claptrap.

    I'm genuinely surprised that people even give considerations such as these, houseroom.



    Edit: Actually with hindsight, that sounded rude. I didn't mean it to be, it just seemed weird that in the whole scheme of things and considering all the other things that there are to worry about whilst planning a wedding, something simple like a button being fastened/unfastened could be worthy of thinking about. Apologies if my comment seemed offensive to anyone, wasn't meant that way.
    Herman - MP for all! :)
  • londonsurrey
    londonsurrey Posts: 2,444 Forumite
    If it's a double breasted waistcoat, it's always buttoned up.

    If it's a single breasted, then it's optional. Undo the last button if you're rotund, or opting for a casual roguish persona. You might want to undo it when sitting down to the wedding meal, and then doing it up again when you get up.

    Enjoy your outfit, have fun with it, and here's to you having a lovely day!
  • Idiophreak
    Idiophreak Posts: 12,024 Forumite
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    You hate it? Seriously? Hate? #dramallama

    Everyone has pet hates. Personally, I can't stand to see musical instruments, artwork or vinyl records damaged...and I'd say hate is pretty much the right word for it. It's not just a dislike...it's like it tears a chunk from the fibre of my being (I know, #dramallama, right) when I see it and I have a physical impulse to try and stop it from happening. I know how stupid it is to react that way, but really can't help it.
  • luxor4t
    luxor4t Posts: 11,125 Forumite
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    May I just say, the phrase "drama llama" has made my day. Such nice pictures on google image too. ......and, yes, my life is sad at the moment!
    I can cook and sew, make flowers grow.
  • londonsurrey
    londonsurrey Posts: 2,444 Forumite
    This, along with other cutting issues, is featuring on News at Ten tonight I believe.

    It's just 'etiket' innit? Who cares at the end of the day? People confuse manners and etiquette. I have a friend who thinks he's the most well-mannered person you can meet. He prides himself on knowing all these little things, like how to hold your wine glass, how not to cut the cheese, how to wear your waistcoat buttons etc..

    Problem is, he's just a raging snob who, rather than show how well-mannered he is by adhering to all these pointless traditions, actually demonstrates how rude he is by endlessly pointing out perceived deficiencies in other people's manners.

    I'm not suggesting you're like this for a moment, OP. You're simply asking a question about wedding etiquette, the answer to which might be mildly interesting I guess.

    I'm just trying to say none of it matters. Real manners are about making those around you feel comfortable, not which of your buttons you do, or don't, have fastened on your waistcoat.

    I totally agree with you there. Manners maketh the man.

    I am not a Royalist, but there supposedly incident at a state banquet when a guest drank from the finger bowl. The Queen immediately followed suit, so as to not allow sneers at the guest's faux pas. That's etiquette, ensuring that your guests are made comfortable.
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    I totally agree with you there. Manners maketh the man.

    I am not a Royalist, but there supposedly incident at a state banquet when a guest drank from the finger bowl. The Queen immediately followed suit, so as to not allow sneers at the guest's faux pas. That's etiquette, ensuring that your guests are made comfortable.

    I love that anecdote. My 'well-mannered' friend would have shrieked with derisory laughter and pointed out to everyone present how said guest was so ill-educated and stupid they'd mistaken the finger-bowl for a drink. That's not etiquette (but he seems to think it is. Twat).
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • londonsurrey
    londonsurrey Posts: 2,444 Forumite
    I love that anecdote. My 'well-mannered' friend would have shrieked with derisory laughter and pointed out to everyone present how said guest was so ill-educated and stupid they'd mistaken the finger-bowl for a drink. That's not etiquette (but he seems to think it is. Twat).

    I agree with you about him. He sounds like someone who has swotted up on etiquette books, but not actually lived in desirable polite society. An insecure failed social climber who would be politely avoided by those he professes to hobnob with.
  • Sambucus_Nigra
    Sambucus_Nigra Posts: 8,669 Forumite
    luxor4t wrote: »
    May I just say, the phrase "drama llama" has made my day. Such nice pictures on google image too. ......and, yes, my life is sad at the moment!

    Glad to have been of service. :D
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • Auntie-Dolly
    Auntie-Dolly Posts: 1,008 Forumite
    Not like my dad who washed his fingers in his green tea while on a trip to the Far East...
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