New drill

capeverde

mikey72 wrote: »

CDI - 1802, and I've a CDI -1801 that I use as a driver, it's the same drill, but with a different chuck, not quite as friendly, but it'll do it as well. Try one, then tell me it won't.

Ha ha old mans diy special to put shelves up in his shed. Only brick that would put a 40mm core bit through is a plasticine one.

mikey72

capeverde wrote: »

Ha ha old mans diy special to put shelves up in his shed. Only brick that would put a 40mm core bit through is a plasticine one.

That was predictable. Maybe you should stick to hacking the 2 x 4.

capeverde

maybe you should stick a chisel bit in your ryobi and go and split some rocks.

mikey72

You're getting mixed up with the CRH180M.

ListysDad

Cape 1 Mikey 0...

Sorry Mikey but Ryobi stuff is simply a false economy wannabe for a professional tradesman. I install bathrooms and have been through every make from B&Q Pro carp through Dewalt, Panasonic and Makita and Bosch. Only the Bosch stand the test of time, reliability and usability per charge. I have an aging 24v SDS right through to an old (nearly 10 years) 12v driver and because I'd left the others at a customers that 12v drilled 3 80mm cable ports through 40mm work top using two batteries whilst the so called dogs do dahs 18v from Ryobi took three batteries to do one! Yes I did go more slowly but they SUCK my friend unless you are a home shelf hanger.

BTW. There's a lot of bull talked about batteries these days. Lithium ion are NOT the panacea for one main reason. All have inbuilt a processor which counts the number of charges and discharges (charge cycles). For safety reasons these are finite on these batteries. Normally they are capable of many many more cycles but the manufacturers reduce it to err on the side of caution and one other vital factor - repeat business. If you buy a set you will find the batteries all mysteriously pack up around the same time due to what I've described. The best in terms of VFM is still NiMh by a country mile and will remain so for the forseeable future. DO NOT buy L-ion if you want longevity.

mikey72

I guess you just don't use them properly, if you've been through that many brands. I'm still on the original.

ListysDad

:rotfl: If you read the message it's far more about how hard they are used.

Never mind, you're opinion is...

:beer:

capeverde

Ive got about a dozen of the new makita impacts in my factory and they break all the time. Makita send us a new one under warranty then after the warranty is up we bin them and buy some more. Thats how it works, they are used practically non stop 8 hours a day and they have more than paid for themselves in that time. Ive also had the 14.4v panasonic, which is a decent bit of kit as well as dewalt and bosch. In my experience the bosch broke before the makitas. Ive considered going back to dewalt, but then its a few grand by the time youve bought all the chargers and batteries as theres no option to buy bare units. Its not that they are getting used wrong, its just that they are used a lot.

mikey72

ListysDad wrote: »

:rotfl: If you read the message it's far more about how hard they are used.

Never mind, you're opinion is...

:beer:

Nah, if you're argueing about battery life, you clearly don't use them enough, and then just don't know how to charge them properly. Still , if you're happy to potter slowly along, whatever works for you.

leveller2911

Without wishing to participate in the bun fight I'm still using 8yr old Makita Ni mh batteries but have already gone through 4 Li-ion in 3 yrs so I would agree that Li-ion is far from perfect and does have issues no matter what make.

I generally use Makita,Metabo and Hilti but do have a Royobi Router which has lasted years, they are cheap and no frills but given the choice of cheap no frills Royobi and overated,overpriced De-Walt I would go for Royobi everytime.

De-Walt make nice workboots,fleece jackets and braces but that about all,still wouldn't buy em out of not wishing to be associated with sh1te tools....:D