Did you have your cat or dog 'done' and why?

Darren_G

Everyone is entitled to their own views, and I have made my point based on my own experiences, having had dogs (both neutered and not neutered).

Wasn't going to bite on this one, but you could have constructed your own post in favour of keeping dogs entire, rather than feel the need to pull someone else's views apart. Also, your other posts show you are generally of an argumentative nature in areas you feel strongly about (that is not a bad thing, so please don't take it personally) rather than a troll, so here we go..

Paradigm wrote: »

They shouldn't be allowed to wander! Mine don't.

Nor does mine, but I see plenty around that do

Paradigm wrote: »

All the above can be the result of learned behaviour that neutering will have little effect on. I'm interested in what you think is acceptable when it comes to "getting them done early enough"?

Yes they can, but behaviours can be re-learned, made easier with a reduced sexual stimulus. 'Early enough' would be when the vet thinks it would be the right time. My use of the phrase was really aimed at the fact that the 'learned behaviour' would be much more difficult to work on with a much older dog.

Paradigm wrote: »

That's purely for your benefit, not the dogs.

But it is a benefit nonetheless

Paradigm wrote: »

C'mon, really? When was the last time anyone saw this?

Depends where you live I suppose

Paradigm wrote: »

Neutering can actually increase aggression in females.

My post specifically stated dominant aggression, not general aggression (note I have used one of your own 'trusted' sources for the link). Spaying multiple females living in the same home means the competition element for the right to breed is removed, making a calmer environment overall.

Paradigm wrote: »

I reckon that it, at the very least, gives food for thought on whether there really are "no reasons not to have it done".

Thank you for your contrasting viewpoint. This will make sure other readers can make their own choices, which is the great thing about open forums

Paradigm

Darren_G wrote: »

Everyone is entitled to their own views, and I have made my point based on my own experiences, having had dogs (both neutered and not neutered).

Wasn't going to bite on this one, but you could have constructed your own post in favour of keeping dogs entire, rather than feel the need to pull someone else's views apart. Also, your other posts show you are generally of an argumentative nature in areas you feel strongly about (that is not a bad thing, so please don't take it personally) rather than a troll

No worries, it's a message board so I never take things personally but I appreciate the comment.

As for "taking your views apart" I apologise if that's how it came across, it was an attempt to put a different point of view... a fail obviously.

My opinion is obviously that, mine. If owners have studied the facts/risks & decide to neuter then that's fine, I don't have a problem.

A case can be made for neutering females, as the chance of Mammary cancer is greatly reduced. However this must be weighed against the potential side effects of said neutering in later life! Not wanting to deal with the mess during a season (example) isn't, to me, a reason for invasive surgery.... don't want to deal with the mess? Don't get a b!tch.

I can see no case for the routine neutering of male dogs, the risk of testicular cancer is minimal yet the potential problems "can" be many. Proper training & control will prevent almost everything else.

I do what I feel is the best for my dogs based on what I know (that doesn't make me right or wrong) & if my posts can make someone do a little research & think about their decision then that's got to be good... regardless of what they finally decide to do. Nothing is ever black or white!

I have links to other, more in depth, studies on the pros/cons of neutering if anyone is interested.

NOTE: I know that cats pose different problems & my posts are always "dog related".

penny_pincha

Hooray, I feel informed.:beer: I don't know much about dogs re neutering but I detect a healthy discussion has emerged. :j

pineapple

Darren_G wrote: »

Also, your other posts show you are generally of an argumentative nature in areas you feel strongly about (that is not a bad thing, so please don't take it personally) rather than a troll, so here we go..

There has been a deal of pulling posts apart and argumentative emotional comments on this thread and personally I feel that paradigm has been less confrontational than some others. Also seconded what penny pincha said. Onwards and upwards eh? :T

Pollycat

I just wish I had a cat that I could take to be neutered/spayed.

I lost my lovely boy 3 months ago today (12th February) and still can't contemplate having another cat.

bluebird

Pollycat wrote: »

I just wish I had a cat that I could take to be neutered/spayed.

I lost my lovely boy 3 months ago today (12th February) and still can't contemplate having another cat.

so sad to hear that,my thoughts are with you.

Abbafan1972

I have a male and female and both of them were already done when I had them.

My male cat has still tried to do the business with the other cat, so I reckon they must have left something behind.......:rotfl:

Paradigm

penny_pincha wrote: »

but I detect a healthy discussion has emerged. :j

Or maybe not

Bettyspag

Abbafan1972 wrote: »

My male cat has still tried to do the business with the other cat, so I reckon they must have left something behind.......:rotfl:

Na they wouldn't have left behind anything

Humping is a learnt response castration doesn't remove this behaviour

Bettyspag

On another note all together ....
Cryptochids (those with one testicle distended) should always be neutered