unfair postage cost.

baffcat

GET REAL, PEOPLE

If you buy from most places online, you pay a charge to have it delivered. When was the last time you bought from a well-known shop and paid only the amount it actually cost to send?

Do Tescos actually work out that every delivery each van makes each day costs them £5 to deliver?

Do you complain? Do you hell as like.

If there's an up-front and clear cost to have your item delivered, and you bid on the item, then you've accepted that cost. It's that simple.

Most of the stuff I send out, and I send between ten and forty items per day, costs £1.09 or £1.39 in stamps. It leaves within a day of receiving payment, even a cheque. A lot of my items are glassware, so I use a lot of corrugated cardboard inside padded envelopes. It can take quite a while to pack most of them. Generally I charge £2.50 - £3.00 per pack. I combine and rationalise post & packing charges whenever I can, but if someone bids on & wins one of my listings, then leaves a neutral because of posting charges, they'd get a neg in return. Before anyone says that's a retaliatory neg, it isn't. I've left positive feedback after receiving a neg which I considered to be justified.

I can understand someone leaving a neutral because of the quality of packing, because however much you pay, it should be of good enough quality to protect the item inside. BUT... before leaving any neutral or neg, I'd give the seller a chance to rectify the situation first, everytime.

In the OP's case, I'd have contacted the seller to complain about the packing, not the cost of it. Now that the seller's admitted his charge is fee avoidance, I'd report him. No matter if I think some of my P&P charge covers some of my fees, I wouldn't say it in an email, ebay message, or in feedback. For that alone, the seller is an @ss.

HTH

Baff

mishkanorman

baffcat wrote:

GET REAL, PEOPLE


Do Tescos actually work out that every delivery each van makes each day costs them £5 to deliver?

no but then equally tesco have a huge amount of extras to cover, the van, the insurance, the driver, etc etc


The majority of ebayers that we are talking about are people just selling off their own stuff, seeing what other people charge for the P+P and charging the same , but not providing the same service.

rovers

if a seller has genuine high costs involved, why not put " i charge you £4 but only £1 of this is actual postage and packing fees, i will send the item in a used carrier bag with no protection, the rest of the cost is spent on my bus fare" BECAUSE NO-ONE WOULD BUY FROM Them :rolleyes: it isnt just stamps you pay for, its a service.


mishka

motorguy

mishkanorman wrote:

Hintza.

you cant compare the time and effort you put in to your packaging, to someone thats is wrapping it in one layer of brown paper or sending it in a carrier bag,

I disagree with the whole 'you agreed to the prices before you bid' rubbish because if someone charged me £4 and it arrived wrapped in bubble wrap, with clearly printed labels, in a jiffy bag, That is worth the money,
Jammed in an envelope with no protection does not provide the same level of value. How on earth are you to know how a seller packs the items before you bid ?? its not so much how much you pay but how that money is spent on your behalf.

i also think that if someone decides to sell online they should take their expenses into account and adjust the start price accordingly and not the P+P price, so if they live in the wilds of borneo and can only reach the PO by row boat maybe they should consider selling on-line is not for them ??


mishka

or maybe people who cant see that an item costing £2 with £4 postage is the same cost to them as an item costing £5 and £1 postage maybe should consider buying on-line is not for them??

What would you do if the item was £6 with free postage?? send him actual cost of postage back?

Surely the cost that you paid for the item dictates whether it was value for money or not, not if it came in a gold plated jiffy bag?

Summarising yet again....

Cost of item = Item Price + P&P Price.

If you don't like it, dont buy the item. End of.

pepsi1234

i'm with some - I myself have no post office near by and costs me wuite a bit in petrol to go to nearest one aswell as cost of postage and packing. IF I put P&P at price of stamps and sold item at 99p i would be put of pocket with fees petrol and packing. - reason dont put much on ebay

As said earlier to the P&P is listed before you bid

silkyuk9

This debate could go on and on. Really though you have to look at the initial thread about the guy admitting to inflating his price, this is the reason i made this thread.

We have all experianced high P and P but has anyone ever been given a reason lime i have experianced.

windswept

All sellers like to cover their fees, does it really matter whether they use the price or the p&p to do this? at least he was honest. surely you dont begrudge him clawing back a little of the fees.

Blacksheep1979

I haven't bothered to read all of this topic as its fairly long now - but this is rediculous, you know the price of postage before bidding, for a book you can guess its not going to be as much as they are asking but you still bid. Its like buying an item from a shop where the markup can be 3-4 times what they paid for it buying said item at £100 and getting annoyed that the shop only paid £30 for it. Also buying stuff online quite often postage is more than it really costs but you know beforehand, agree to it and factor it into the overall price - if you don't like it or agree with it then don't buy.

susplum

silkyuk9 wrote:

This debate could go on and on. Really though you have to look at the initial thread about the guy admitting to inflating his price,

The thread has gone off on a tangent with the world and his wife discussing P+P, however, to be fair you have already had an answer... IF your seller had just charged high P+P and you had complained it would have been tough luck. You had the choice and chose to pay it. BUT your seller has actually admitted fee avoidance and you have been advised to neg them and report it.

What more advice are you looking for

On the subject of travel etc included in P+P, if your local PO has been shut then you may have no choice than to travel to your nearest town to post your ebay parcels, I don't work or own a car or make frequent 'shopping trips' to town (HELLO I'M ON MSE!!!!) Therefore if I sell on Ebay it takes a special trip to my 'local' PO nearly 10 miles away... I don't have the time or the inclination to walk that far!

zappahey

silkyuk9 wrote:

i am happy with the item i just think its a liberty to state that in a feedback reply.

You're right, it was, you should have accepted that you knew the shipping before you bid and left feedback accordingly.

Snooze_Control

baffcat wrote:

GET REAL, PEOPLE

If you buy from most places online, you pay a charge to have it delivered. When was the last time you bought from a well-known shop and paid only the amount it actually cost to send?

Do Tescos actually work out that every delivery each van makes each day costs them £5 to deliver?

Do you complain? Do you hell as like.

If there's an up-front and clear cost to have your item delivered, and you bid on the item, then you've accepted that cost. It's that simple.

:T

The majority of people using these forums should be banned from buying and selling online as they have absolutely no idea how the concept of P&P works.

:rolleyes:

SC