MacBooks...cheaper to own?

Notmyrealname

-TangleFoot- wrote: »

If it's got a SSD it'll boot quickly, but pound-for-pound you won't have as much space for movies, music and games as you would with a conventional HDD.

For more games, take a look at Steam.

Boot time on a Macbook Pro is irrelevant as it should be for any laptop. I've not turned mine off for 2 years. Current uptime is over 4 days but thats only because a software update required a reboot.

All I do is just close the lid when I've finished and when I want to use it, open it again. ACPI power management - a wonderful thing invented over a decade ago

-TangleFoot-

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Boot time on a Macbook Pro is irrelevant as it should be for any laptop. I've not turned mine off for 2 years.

I turn mine off whenever I'm not using it; I prize data integrity over mere convenience. The fact that it turns on and off more quickly than anything else I've ever used before is - as you've observed - not particularly important in the grand scheme of things. It's still bloody impressive though.

If someone wants something that boots fast, I tell them what they need to make it so as concisely as I can.

Notmyrealname

-TangleFoot- wrote: »

I turn mine off whenever I'm not using it; I prize data integrity over mere convenience.
If someone wants something that boots fast, I tell them what they need to make it so as concisely as I can.

Why do you think any data would be lost? The cache is flushed to the HDD when it goes to sleep. When the battery reaches a certain level, the laptop wakes up and then goes into hibernate, writing the contents of RAM to the HDD.

Derivative

Apple computers have a number of benefits, but one thing they are definitely not is cheaper.

Buy one if you wish, but using the cost/durability angle is just fooling yourself IMO.

wba31

-TangleFoot- wrote: »

I turn mine off whenever I'm not using it; I prize data integrity over mere convenience. The fact that it turns on and off more quickly than anything else I've ever used before is - as you've observed - not particularly important in the grand scheme of things. It's still bloody impressive though.

If someone wants something that boots fast, I tell them what they need to make it so as concisely as I can.

I shut my Mac down when not in use but I have friends who have used Mac's for 10 years+, and they tell me they are designed to sleep rather than being shut down at all times...

-TangleFoot-

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Why do you think any data would be lost?

Unexpected power failure or software conflict; I'm a desktop-bound Windows user at heart.

BRSurvivor

While not about MacBooks, I have to tell you my recent experience.

I've had PCs for about 15 years. A few months ago I was really pining for an iMac - any my lovely wife agreed to let me buy one for my upcoming big 4-0.

About six weeks ago, we went and got one. The base 21.5" iMac model, quad core, 500GB hard drive, etc £999. Beautiful beautiful machine, looked so elegant when I put it on my computer workstation - no tower, no wires, and simply gorgeous display.

I booted it up, and tried to run some MKV video files. No good. Had to download some software to play them, and then they were choppy. I installed Microsoft Office - I love Excel, and have developed powerful spreadsheets for work, and they ran like a snail on the Mac.

OS X is very different. I had Windows open all over the place. I wanted to uninstall MS Office to re-install it, couldn't figure that out.

In the end I installed Bootcamp to run Windows 7 - and it looked gorgeous on the Mac, and it was more powerful than my old PC. I knew at that stage that I would spend more and more time using it as a PC.

So a week after buying it, I took it back and got a refund (no quibble). Then I went to PC world and bought an i7 based PC, 23inch IPS monitor, 1.5GB hard drive, 4GB memory, separate graphics card, and a 60GB SSD, and had over £60 left.
I had some issues getting the SSD working, but now I'm booting from it and it boots in not time at all. The whole PC is unbelievably quick - it's just not as pretty as the iMac.

In a funny way I'm greiving for the iMac. I so much wanted to love it. I just couldn't deal with OS X.

My advice is to go play with a Mac at an apple store. If you buy a new one, you can return it within 14 days.

-TangleFoot-

BRSurvivor wrote: »

OS X is very different. I had Windows open all over the place.

One of the first things I noticed was that clicking on the little red button in the upper left-hand corner didn't terminate the app: it took several minutes for me to realise that the glowing dot under the icon I'd used to start the thing was telling me as much. Minimising also turned out to be completely pointless, so I stopped trying to treat it like a PC and memorised a few of the more important keyboard shortcuts.

Sadly, [Cmd]+[Q] just doesn't have quite the same ring to it as [Alt]+[F4].

A._Badger

-TangleFoot- wrote: »

Can you name another laptop made out of chunks of solid aluminium? I can't.

A Thinkpad. You can hammer nails in with them.

flexrider

-TangleFoot- wrote: »

Does that hold true for the 2010 model? Mine's ice cold most of the time...

yeah in fact most macbooks to be honest has some issues my macbooks were known for giving people shocks as for your question see the cited link:http://maccrazy.com/macbook-air-heat-fan-noise


will explain more seems apple designs do have issues my old 2006 model has gone from white to now yellow and with the fans on back near screen it is very warm,Will upload points in photos to prove this same with my MBP with some models in 2008 the fans stopped working.

same with all machines mac or windows. only problem is mac is over priced....same coat as windows no knickers later on if you follow the meaning

all same bells and whistles its all about hardware not a shiney apple logo for 2k and form evalutional outlook all computers need hardware and software and pretty do the same

its all marketing

cheers