Conservative government

chucky

coastline wrote: »

All a game ..ones as bad as the other...

That's modern politics, all 3 could virtually swap and be representing a different party. It seems all of them have their own agenda which doesn't seem to be the countries priorities.

kabayiri

chucky wrote: »

It really is typical of this forum that you can post something completely inaccurate that contains sound bites and people think it's the truth.

How many people got lap tops... Approximately a huge 0.0045% of the UK population.

Also a small thing it was that great Labour politician John Major that started PFI, never mind though at least you got a couple of Thanks for it despite being completely wrong.

It's quite scary that people even thank these types of post, despite the huge inaccuracies.

You've just described these posters and yourself very well.

Inaccuracies. Hardly.

You seem to miss the point.

Using your figures I contend that 0.0045% too many of the population got free laptops. I never stated quantity. You just assumed.

I never actually said PFI was a Labour invention either. Another assumption on your part. It was liberally abused by Labour though, and I'm sure this lot in power will abuse it.

These aren't soundbites. These are profligate policies which I disagree with. You may actually prefer a featherbed nation. I don't.

lemonjelly

A student of GCSE economics could have told Cameron that austerity wouldn't work. The economic policy being followed by the coalition is an ideological one. The trouble is Cameron (with the help of much of the media and the ever supine BBC) managed to convince enough of the electorate that a state must run its economy like a responsible household. Labour are also to blame as they have given credibility to this nonsense by following this argument pretty much to the letter.

chucky

kabayiri wrote: »

Inaccuracies. Hardly.

You seem to miss the point.

Using your figures I contend that 0.0045% too many of the population got free laptops. I never stated quantity. You just assumed.

I never actually said PFI was a Labour invention either. Another assumption on your part. It was liberally abused by Labour though, and I'm sure this lot in power will abuse it.

These aren't soundbites. These are profligate policies which I disagree with. You may actually prefer a featherbed nation. I don't.

Yes you're right everything the Tories do is right.

chucky

lemonjelly wrote: »

A student of GCSE economics could have told Cameron that austerity wouldn't work.

How dare you criticise the Tories you dirty little labour championship supporter.

Missed you duchess.

Thrugelmir

lemonjelly wrote: »

A student of GCSE economics could have told Cameron that austerity wouldn't work.

That's a new one to me.

More a question of financial management than economics now. A skill that few politicians have.

IronWolf

lemonjelly wrote: »

A student of GCSE economics could have told Cameron that austerity wouldn't work. The economic policy being followed by the coalition is an ideological one. The trouble is Cameron (with the help of much of the media and the ever supine BBC) managed to convince enough of the electorate that a state must run its economy like a responsible household. Labour are also to blame as they have given credibility to this nonsense by following this argument pretty much to the letter.

Yes, but unfortunately, like the shadow cabinet, they would be wrong, because GCSE economics is a wildly simplified version of how the real world works.

chewmylegoff

lemonjelly wrote: »

A student of GCSE economics could have told Cameron that austerity wouldn't work. The economic policy being followed by the coalition is an ideological one. The trouble is Cameron (with the help of much of the media and the ever supine BBC) managed to convince enough of the electorate that a state must run its economy like a responsible household. Labour are also to blame as they have given credibility to this nonsense by following this argument pretty much to the letter.

Labour's alternative of borrow and spend then cut deeper later is no less an ideological position, and I'm sure you could find quite a few GCSE student who would tell you that wouldn't work either, and a number of ratings agencies who might well agree with them.

Thrugelmir

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Labour's alternative of borrow

Borrow from where?

There's a question that hasn't been answered.

As was said earlier. There's a real world out there that isn't interested in lending money.

Wookster

lemonjelly wrote: »

The economic policy being followed by the coalition is an ideological one.

This is just the most bankrupt argument. If your argument was a picture, it would be an ostrich sticking its head in the sand.

1. Even labour says that some retrenchment is necessary
2. It becomes ideological only when retrenchment is not necessary and it is done by choice, that choice being one of a number of options.

Let me find an example:

James puts his hand on a hot stove. He moves it once it hurts. Is this ideological or out of necessity?

Another one:

Lolita has her hand on her left n1pple. She moves it. Is this ideology or....

Which of the above is ideological?