WARNING!!! Ikea Gas Detectors are not Carbon Monoxide detectors!

babyangel10

I have just tagged this onto a different carbon monoxide thread, but thought I'd better give it it's own thread too, just in case...

Please note that if you have bought a detector from IKEA recently that it is probably not a CARBON MONOXIDE detector, it is just a GAS detector.

I was in there today and saw some gas detectors, so I enquired about them as nowhere on the packaging did it mention C/M detection. The advisor said that they aren't for C/M detection, only for gas like butane, methane and propane.

She, or I, may of course be wrong, but she was adamant that they don't sell (and have never sold) C/M detectors, and that the detectors that they do sell, don't detect C/M.

Please check! Might be worth a phone call to Ikea?

I know C/M is a type of gas, but surely if this type of detector was to detect C/M it would state clearly on the packing?

Any gas people got any advice?

MarkyMarkD

Eh?

Not sure what you are saying there.

If an item is labelled "gas detector", and doesn't mention "carbon monoxide" anywhere on it, I think you'd be a numpty to think it detected carbon monoxide.

And vice versa.

I have only seen detectors labelled, very clearly, "carbon monoxide detector". I've never seen gas detectors.

babyangel10

That is my point - if you had read the other thread about Carbon Monoxide before insinuating that I was stupid then you would see that another poster had mentioned that they had bought a C/M detector from Ikea - I was pointing out that after being in there today trying to purchase one for myself i have found out that they don't sell them - only gas detectors.

And anyway, as Carbon monoxide is a form of gas, surely it would be quite an easy mistake for someone to think that a gas detector would detect all forms of gas?

Perhaps I won't bother trying to be helpful next time...:rolleyes:

babyangel10

MarkyMarkD wrote:

I've never seen gas detectors.

Gas detectors are readily available for detection of Butane, Propane, Methane etc, and you can also buy a product that ALSO detects C/M within the same gas detector.

That is what I was getting at - it is easy to be confused because of the above product being available.

So who's the numpty now eh?

benood

Thanks Gerty - I had seen the other thread and wondered how Ikea did them for £12 when online they are more like double that.

moonrakerz

Don't forget that there are Carbon Monoxide detectors and Carbon Monoxide alarms, at vastly different prices.

As the names imply one detects and the other alarms. If your CO level soars to lethal levels when you are in bed asleep all a detector will do is tell the emergency services that you probably died of CO poisoning, before they do the post mortem !

across

thanks for that i'm glad i didnt go all the way to ikea, i am going to get argos one £29.99 unless anyones seen any others better value?
could do with the alarm one how much are they? dont want to go to sleep and not wake up really!

MarkyMarkD

gertybertyangel wrote:

That is my point - if you had read the other thread about Carbon Monoxide before insinuating that I was stupid ...

Why should I have? As you unnecessarily started a new thread without included the history, which I hadn't read, then I had to try to understand it on its own like anyone else coming straight to this thread.

MarkyMarkD

gertybertyangel wrote:

Gas detectors are readily available for detection of Butane, Propane, Methane etc, and you can also buy a product that ALSO detects C/M within the same gas detector.

That is what I was getting at - it is easy to be confused because of the above product being available.

So who's the numpty now eh?

"I've never seen gas detectors" is a statement of fact and doesn't make me, or anyone else a numpty.

"Gas" to the average "man on the Clapham omnibus" means the stuff that fuels your central heating or your gas fire, not oxygen, nitrogen, carbon monoxide or anything else.

Following your illogical path, a "gas" detector would be permanently active because the air is made up of nothing but "gas". D'oh!

So, it's only simple to be confused if you are a numpty, IMHO.

Mikeyorks

gertybertyangel wrote:

And anyway, as Carbon monoxide is a form of gas, surely it would be quite an easy mistake for someone to think that a gas detector would detect all forms of gas?

No - I would personally think that's a bit silly. You're essentially suggesting that all types of gas are the same and a single detector is 'one size fits all'.

Equally silly, I'm afraid, is to get all excited about the obvious dangers of Carbon Monoxide (other thread you relate to) - then rush out looking for the cheapest.

It's an area where 'cheap' - and 'fit for purpose' rarely hold hands.

The good ones retail around £45 - this one is an exceptional low price for the quality of as combined CM / smoke detector. And you cannot ignore it when it goes off / needs the battery changing - despite the slight American accent.


http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=140485

Mikeyorks

moonrakerz wrote:

Don't forget that there are Carbon Monoxide detectors and Carbon Monoxide alarms, at vastly different prices.

As the names imply one detects and the other alarms. If your CO level soars to lethal levels when you are in bed asleep all a detector will do is tell the emergency services that you probably died of CO poisoning, before they do the post mortem !

Can you show me where to find a domestic 'detector' that doesn't also incorporate an 'alarm'? Because I don't think they exist - it's simply the terminology ....... and not the technology that's different.