Parking eye invoice

Orford

Yes this is the internet where you are right to not necessarily to accept advice from complete strangers who clearly cannot give you the cast-iron guarantee which you seem to want.

But having researched thoroughly yourself, there comes the point when you have to make a considered decision as to whether you take the advice proffered or not.

It is entirely your choice.

give_them_FA

fivegoldstars wrote: »

I like to make sure I've got all bases covered, and I want to check I'm doing the right thing. I don't think that's an unreasonable position.
There's a lot of dubious advice on the internet, much of the time offered by people with no qualifications to give that advice. I simply want to make sure that I'm listening to the right people.

One qualification which I have is that I have personally seen off over 80 of these fake tickets and never paid out a penny. But of course that might not be true, I can see where you are coming from...

but if you research the law of contract you would find that a contract made with an individual can only be enforced against that individual which is the reason parking companies cannot sue the registered keeper unless they have proof they were also the driver- info which is not available to them.

You might also want to take a look in the stickies for the opinion of a top solicitor as to what letters from parking companies are worth- make a paper aeroplane out of them....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA

husheechee

fivegoldstars..please read post 16 then read it agaain then if you're not convinced then re read all the posts on here(if you got the time to)then you should come to the same conclusion as everyone else on here...if you dont?...then pay the "reduced" charge cos by this time you will probably have appealed and admitted that you were the driver of the said "offending" car...PEs response?...GOTCHA! and thats exactly what they are hoping you will do...notice the word...hope...the oxford dictionary gives the definition of hope as follows....hope.."a feeling of expectation and a desire for something to happen",and thats all they can do is HOPE that you respond to the threat-ogramms that are sent to you and you give in and pay,thats what they desire to happen and some people pay up to make it nice and easy for them...grrrr...now you have 2 choices here....listen to and take the advice on this/these forums and ignore the b@@@@ds and "man up" or pay up and become one of their frightened "victims"......your call.
there is a 3rd choice....send me the money instead....what you mean you wont send me the money?but i demand it!!!in fact im going to double what i asked for in the first place!(more letters to follow)...get the picture? see where this is going? absolutely nowhere and thats as far as these idiots will get with all those who take the choice of ignoring them

Stephen_Leak

Whether you still owe the original charge is a moot legal point.

Most judges have taken the view that, if you ask for more, you've waived your right to the lower amount.

On the other hand, we have the recent case of, of all PPCs, Parking Eye vs. Smith, Manchester, 2011, 1XJ81016. The judge told the PPC that their demands were unreasonable, were therefore an unlawful contractual penalty and found in favour of the driver.

However, as the driver hadn't paid the parking charge, the judge felt compelled to award the PPC with ... £15. He didn’t award them their costs of £4,400.

One can never speak for another, but I wouldn't be in any hurry to risk having my unlawful actions exposed to legal scrutiny and forking out so much money for no return again.

PS. If you don't feel able to believe us well meaning amateurs, you can always ask the professionals, the British Parking Association (http://www.britishparking.co.uk/).

give_them_FA

Just so long as you do your research and realise that the BPA is NOT any form of regulatory body, simply an organisation founded by, and run by, the parking companies to give them a veneer of respectability in order to further their own interests.

Look up OPC, a company prosecuted in Court and heavily fined for dishonest practices.. proclaimed by the BPA to have done nothing wrong. (There but for the grace of God, they probably thought).

Between 30 and 40% of people who get these charges don't pay and it is rising, thanks to our efforts and rising public awareness. That is several hundred thousand people. It's up to you if you want to join them. No skin off my nose either way.

Kite2010

However if a car-park has suddenly become a pay and display (come on is life for the retail parks getting so hard they have to charge for people to park in their massive car-parks now, are they trying to kill themselves even more?) after donkey years of being free parking, without any notable differences (for example a massive sign as you go in saying "This car-park is now Pay and Display") than it can be argued that you never entered into the contract.

After-all who checks the signs every week to see if they have changed?

tiffany1

I parked in a carpark that was for low emission cars.I received a parking ticket for council £30 if paid with in two weeks.I appealed .I was told that my appeal was not excepted and that althought its well with in the week deadline i now have to pay £70.It seems that if you appeal and lose you also lose the write to pay the reduced amount.I had never come across these low emission car parks before.Didn't know there was such a thing.Has any one els come across this problem of if you appeal then you lose the right to pay the reduced fine?

give_them_FA

Puzzled. With the councils, if you challenge, the reduced payment period is normally put on hold until they reply to your challenge and you will still have the half price option available. However £30 isn't half of £70. Can you give us more details?

Kite2010

How are the council defining "low emissions"?

Is it just against CO2 when ignoring the other nasties which get pumped out of the tail pipe of a car (ie Noxs)?

Stephen_Leak

Kite2010 wrote: »

How are the council defining "low emissions"?

Is it just against CO2 when ignoring the other nasties which get pumped out of the tail pipe of a car (ie Noxs)?

CO2 is the usual one. And I do agree about all the other stuff, especially particulates, even though I drive a diesel.

I can only presume that they're using the VED bands and checking the tax discs.