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WhiteHorse

Dr Vijayakumar.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2135543/Lying-doctor-failed-spot-meningitis-wrecked-girls-life-Now-set-seven-figure-sum.html

NiallB

Remember it? I can't even pronounce it!

maninthestreet

The worrying aspect is that this doctor has not been disciplined in any way, and the hospital stands by his mis-diagnosis and act of deception.

paddedjohn

They all stick together even when they kill someone through their own negligence leaving 2 kids without a mum, compensation for the loss of a mother yes, apology no.

wimblewomble_2

instead of jabbering on about "compensation", which sadly, is a default response these days, have you ever thought why companies react is such ways?
why do they respond in non-committal, pseudo-legalese ways?
why is no-one specific publicly censured?

another thing I HATE.....
Of all the incidents that could be used, its always the ones that trigger emotional responses that are highlighted.
Always, the ickle, lickle, innocent, children.
Its almost as if we are expected to put aside rational reasoning in favour of emotionally reactive responses.
"Ignore the facts, just feel the quality of the emotion".

paddedjohn

wimblewomble wrote: »

instead of jabbering on about "compensation", which sadly, is a default response these days, have you ever thought why companies react is such ways?
why do they respond in non-committal, pseudo-legalese ways?
why is no-one specific publicly censured?

another thing I HATE.....
Of all the incidents that could be used, its always the ones that trigger emotional responses that are highlighted.
Always, the ickle, lickle, innocent, children.
Its almost as if we are expected to put aside rational reasoning in favour of emotionally reactive responses.
"Ignore the facts, just feel the quality of the emotion".

All the facts are there in my post and I can verify them as its my own kids I'm talking about.

wimblewomble_2

paddedjohn wrote: »

All the facts are there in my post and I can verify them as its my own kids I'm talking about.

oooh, you win.
emotional argument to you, since there is no response.
of course, I cant POSSIBLY know what it feels like, since I have none of my own, therefore I cannot or shouldn't comment.

personal experience, whilst perfectly valid, does not make your views any more valuable, nor gives you the insight to greater truth.

sorry.

BJV

When I was pregnant with my son I suddenly felt ill. I went to the doctors i knew something was wrong be to told I had a bad cold and was just feeling heavily pregnant. We drove out and went straight to the drop in centre. Thank God. I was having a reaction to changes in my blood which had not been picked up which means that my body was attacking the baby. My son was induced 2 months early and born within 1 and a half hours. Thankfully just in time happy and healthy.

OK long winded ( sorry ) but the point I am making is that it is called medical science but it is not. Everyone is different and everyone reacts differently to treatment. That said there is something fundamentally wrong with our health care systems when a specific course of treatment is based only on a Junior doctors opinion.

And sorry but it should not be about the money or compensation as no amount of money can ever bring a loved one back.

jc808

wimblewomble wrote: »

oooh, you win.
emotional argument to you, since there is no response.
of course, I cant POSSIBLY know what it feels like, since I have none of my own, therefore I cannot or shouldn't comment.

personal experience, whilst perfectly valid, does not make your views any more valuable, nor gives you the insight to greater truth.

sorry.

oh, stop being such a !!!!

wimblewomble_2

jc808 wrote: »

oh, stop being such a !!!!

thank you. :beer:

wimblewomble_2

BJV wrote: »

When I was pregnant with my son I suddenly felt ill. I went to the doctors i knew something was wrong be to told I had a bad cold and was just feeling heavily pregnant. We drove out and went straight to the drop in centre. Thank God. I was having a reaction to changes in my blood which had not been picked up which means that my body was attacking the baby. My son was induced 2 months early and born within 1 and a half hours. Thankfully just in time happy and healthy.

OK long winded ( sorry ) but the point I am making is that it is called medical science but it is not. Everyone is different and everyone reacts differently to treatment. That said there is something fundamentally wrong with our health care systems when a specific course of treatment is based only on a Junior doctors opinion.

And sorry but it should not be about the money or compensation as no amount of money can ever bring a loved one back.

it IS science.
however, we are not clones, therefore we all have differing metabolisms, blood types, differing rates to recover from illnesses, complications from genetic tendencies, etc.

thats why NO medicine is perfect for anyone. it has to be, by definition, best practice, best option for the majority of the population. there will always be outliers.

the increasing complexity of medicines, and time-frames for prescribing, makes it more difficult for doctors to keep up with latest and best practice.

if a doctor decides to try out a new prescription which has little experience behind it, and it goes wrong, the doc gets the blame.
if a doctor decides not to use a new medicine because it has little experience behind it, and the old medicine fails, the doc is blamed.

my original remarks were more aimed at the reason why organisations appear to fail to censure or publicly apologise.
the corrupting aspect of blame and compensation means organisations will avoid appearing to be at fault.
this makes openly establishing better guidelines or better practice more difficult.