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Social Services Question
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I can understand why people are concerned that SS would reveal who had reported a concern, but you have to consider the other side of the coin. If SS knocked at your door saying that an allegation had been made, you would expect to have the right to defend yourself and give your explanation. Without knowing who has made the allegation, this could be very difficult.
This actually happened to my sister a few years ago. Someone reported her to social services making various allegations about how she was supposedly neglecting and mistreating her children. It turned out that the person who made the allegations was a jealous ex partner of my sister's new boyfriend. This person had been harrassing my sister in other ways, and because SS told her where the allegations came from, it was fairly straightforward for my sister to explain the situation, and satisfy SS that the allegations were malicious.[/
If a malicious complaint is made and investigated one hopes the social workers will see happy, healthy children. Even if they see happy healthy children several times. If someone reports anonymously the ss will have a harder time identifying it is a repeat anonymous caller, rather than several worried people.
Btw, ex partners reporting abuse probably are mainly malicious, but i bet some are not, sadly. I would be concerned that ss who are content to see people take the flack for doing something good are happy to accept a jealous ex must be motivated wrongly, not just that there is a high chance the ex is.0 -
Plus when you call ss to give them info they will record the phone call and refuse to take info without recording a conversation to cover themselves. That is a fact.it's not rocket science that people don't like getting involved.0
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Plus when you call ss to give them info they will record the phone call and refuse to take info without recording a conversation to cover themselves. That is a fact.it's not rocket science that people don't like getting involved.
Personally, i wouldn't mind being recorded or giving my name if its going to be confidential. For goodness sake, if i am concerned enough to call, then i am concerned enough to think action needs to take place.
However, in many many cases the repurcussions could be immence, both for onself...adult intimidation, violence, or even just a neighbour dispute making a home less saleable, but also, if for example, it were a school friend the call was made about, i can see how parents might worry their own child might suffer repurcussions in the playground if it comes out.0 -
I as yet have not come across a department within social services that deals with children who have the funds to pay for recording equipment of their telephone calls0
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paulofessex wrote: »I as yet have not come across a department within social services that deals with children who have the funds to pay for recording equipment of their telephone calls
i wanted to say this but couldnt be **sed,, the thought that we're all sitting in swanky high tech offices is laughable. most offices dont even have enough chairs, desks and computers, we're being forced to use second class mail due to costs meaning letters dont get where they should do on time and people think there is recording equipment!!0 -
I would be very surprised if any calls to Social Services are audio recorded. A written record is made, these days on a secure computer file system.0
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Well call I can assure you that they are0
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Try calling Worcester social services and ask 01905 765765 simple. Not everyone wants to give their name or be recorded0
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LondonDiva wrote: »I understand your concerns and would report her to the social services and also the police - end of. All she will have served is to make her life harder.
I am concerned that you as an adult with the ability to call the police, report her behaviour to the council and social services are now saying that you would knowingly leave a child in potential danger / risk and do nothing
All the repercusions about Baby P related to the actions of the social workers, but how many neighbours and family members saw or guessed what was happening and looked the other way?:mad:
You are an adult in this country and part of the social contract is that if you believe a child or adult is at risk, you man up and do something about it. If the parent goes off on one, you have recourse to the police and social workers - there's no excuse for shrugging your shoulders.
A friend was abused by her dad as a child and there were neighbours who refused to let their kids alone with him and turns out knew about it, but did nothing. IMO if a child is put at risk or suffers an extra hour of abuse more because of your inaction, you are essentially colluding with the abuse.
Would you be so brave as to give your name to social services when making this type of call? knowing that they will tell the parents as a matter of course?
Do you have any idea of how these parents will react? Would you put your OWN life at risk - or your kids lives? Some of these parents are evil nutters - they abuse their own kids and you SS people think they wont retaliate on a nieghbour for informing SS on them??????????
why dont you join the real world hun? these parents are NOT going to invite the neighbours in for coffee and biccies and nice chat about the kids!!!!!!!!!!
No - they will throw bricks through windows and burning rags through letterboxes! they will get high and burst into your home and beat the Sh!te out of you!
So dont be so bluddy sanctimonious about NOT informing on abusers! you have no idea what the he!! you are talking about when saying the nieghbours are 'colluding'!0 -
lostinrates wrote: »
Btw, ex partners reporting abuse probably are mainly malicious, but i bet some are not, sadly. I would be concerned that ss who are content to see people take the flack for doing something good are happy to accept a jealous ex must be motivated wrongly, not just that there is a high chance the ex is.
Of course social services didn't just blindly accept that the allegations were malicious just because they came from a jealous ex - this went hand in hand with checking that the children were well looked after. I thought that would be obvious and didn't therefore need pointing out!0
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