London council's 'social cleansing' of housing benefit tenants

cord123

This is nothing new...a few years ago lots of people from hackney and east london areas were paid alot of money (thousands of £££) to move to essex (Chadwell heath areas). Absolute joke! They now have lovely new council houses with 4x4 cars on the drive!Who said you dont get anything free in this world!

Conrad

Yes, I come accross lovely ole Jamaican guys of about 60, tube workers, bus drivers et al, who ended up with million pound Islington homes they bought using the RTB. I cant help being a bit jealous of such easy riches that otherwise take huge effort to build. There's definitely a disconnect between reward and effort.

The other one that bugs the heck out of me are these types suing left right and centre for compensation, often on bullying or racial grounds. Yet I then see these folk lording it up with the Audi Q8, happy as Larry, so thankful they can mug the rest of us more than once. What ever happened to accepting a good old apology, why does everything have to come down to getting money for nothing.

Honestly guys, lets follow these folk and do all we can to minimise our contributions and maximise our rewards. When the pot runs dry, let all the claimants sort it out.

ILW

Conrad wrote: »

Yes, I come accross lovely ole Jamaican guys of about 60, tube workers, bus drivers et al, who ended up with million pound Islington homes they bought using the RTB. I cant help being a bit jealous of such easy riches that otherwise take huge effort to build.

To be fair, I know a few in the same situation but it was not right to buy. They just tended to buy in what at the time were cheap run down areas such as Clapham, Fulham and Battersea. You could buy the big old 4 storey victorian terraces for next to nothing in the 60s. Tended to be one family that owned and another two or three renting in the same house. Worth millions now though.

grizzly1911

heathcote123 wrote: »

Not so sure the normal rules of supply and demand come into it once you make something free?

It isn't free though otherwise I would could have/ demand one.

It is an legislated entitlement through justified need.

If one side agrees to the entitlement it also needs to provide the resources to meet it.

Whether that legislated entitlement is fair and just is another argument.

Graham_Devon

So it now seems it's a labour council moaning about it, and they are "trying" to strike a deal with another labour council, who will, I assume, then cry out they cannot cope and it's all the governments fault?

I didn't realise it was quite so political, but hopefully the media will note this.

wouldbeqaulitymoneysaver

Stoke on Trent yuuuch. Maybe cos it's a horrible area?

Jennifer_Jane

wouldbeqaulitymoneysaver wrote: »

Stoke on Trent yuuuch. Maybe cos it's a horrible area?

How well do you know it?

It's full of parks, good pubs and restaurants, it's on the edge of the Staffordshire Moorlands which are gorgeous, has cinema and excellent theatre with the London casts before or after The West End, and the cultural and artistic heritage of 'the Potteries'.

It has excellent bus services and is therefore a much easier and cheaper place to live in than London with it's expensive Transport for London which is always on strike, or suffering signal failures, and costs a fortune. It's a 2 hour train journey to London with frequent services.

yertiz_2

pqrdef wrote: »

So what exactly is the problem here? Is it the money, or is it the new capping rules preventing councils from paying the levels of benefit they've previously been allowed to pay?

And how on earth does Boris intend to make this scheme operate fairly? Everybody thinks they're a special case.

The problem is that property in that area is now too expensive, greedy landlords realising that they can cash in on HB which the councils have been hoodwinked into paying. Reduce the rents to a reasonable amount. Would private tenants pay the sort of money that HB tenants are charged? I don't think so.

vax2002

The problem with uncontrolled immigration ( a city the size of Birmingham every 6 years) is not one of the stupid lefty supporters ever gave one bit of thought as to where these people would all live ?
They still dont.
Talk about chickens home to roost

Graham_Devon

yertiz wrote: »

The problem is that property in that area is now too expensive, greedy landlords realising that they can cash in on HB which the councils have been hoodwinked into paying. Reduce the rents to a reasonable amount. Would private tenants pay the sort of money that HB tenants are charged? I don't think so.

There appears to be a tripple whammy going on at the moment. These two news articles are from the past 24 hours.

Firstly, landlords are experienceing higher levels of tenants unable to pay: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=tenants&source=newssearch&cd=2&ved=0CDcQqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thisismoney.co.uk%2Fmoney%2Fmortgageshome%2Farticle-2133993%2FLandlords-hit-tenants-struggle-rent-rises-slow-2-7.html%3Fito%3Dfeeds-newsxml&ei=ttaWT7vWB8nO0QX8ubCTDg&usg=AFQjCNG8aNZcax9AzFZfmUP8R2c0nIdkwA&cad=rja

Secondly, more than half of landlords according to one study now believe it's unaffordable to rent to those on housing benefit: http://www.property118.com/index.php/landlords-drop-housing-benefit-tenants-as-cuts-bite/27612/

And if the story from this thread actually does go ahead (which it won't I don't believe) landlords are going to have to find themselves private tenants willing to pay HB rates.

All 3 things together and it all looks a bit of a mess. But above all, every single one surrounds unaffordable properties.