Avoiding Nestle help!

MrsW82

Sorry if I'm putting this in the wrong place, but can anyone give me the details of a site that lists the supermarkets that use Nestle products as their "Own brand" products please?

Its all in the name of avoiding evil evil nestle! Thanks!

penrhyn

Not sure, but I'll think about it over my morning Nespresso!

Evil, pourquoi?

MrsW82

So many reasons - so little time! (and I'm trying to find a link that explains far better than I can)

Nestle make baby formula - that in itself is OK - (I'm a Breastfeeding Peer Supporter, we'll leave out formula debates right now), and Nestle like to push the use of formula, out in lesser developed countries, where these mothers cannot always read the instructions on how to safely make it - that is assuming they have access to water - and that it is safe to drink!

There's much more to it than that - Wiki has a lot of the issues covered -
Or here:
http://info.babymilkaction.org/nestlefree

thenudeone

It is universally agreed that there is no food more locally produced or sustainable than breastmilk.
A breastfed child is less likely to suffer from gastroenteritis, respiratory and ear infections, diabetes, allergies and other illnesses. In areas with unsafe water a bottle-fed child is up to 25 times more likely to die as a result of diarrhoea.

According to UNICEF,

Improved breastfeeding practices and reduction of artificial feeding could save an estimated 1.5 million children a year.

http://www.unicef.org/sowc01/maps/maps/map1nf.htm

There are international codes of conduct which try to stop formula being aggressively marketed for example
-giving free samples to new mothers
-sponsoring health workers or facilities
-advertising in ways that suggests formula is better than breast milk

These codes work reasonably well in developed countries (which is why you can't use supermarket discount coupons for infant formula milk, for example) but often much less to in developing countries which have other higher priorities to deal with.

Some baby formula milk manufacturers aggressively market formula in breach of the code, in ways which would be illegal in developed countries.

It is alleged that Nestle is one of the largest culprits, so a campaign to boycott Nestle products has been running for decades, which is supported by many organisations such as the Save the Children, Oxfam, and the United Reformed Church General Assembly.

More info here: http://info.babymilkaction.org/

penrhyn

I would have thought that the attitude to birth control by certain religions contributes even more to the suffering of the babies being brought into the world.

MrsW82

http://www.analyticalarmadillo.co.uk/2011/02/irony-in-raising-money-for-comic-relief.html

MrsW82

""I would have thought that the attitude to birth control by certain religions contributes even more to the suffering of the babies being brought into the world.""

(sorry - unsure how to quote in my reply)


While a mother is breastfeeding exclusively, it acts as a method of contraception - her body realising it is sustaining one baby, therefore doesn't release eggs to create any more!
*Just* one more reason breatfeeding, and the human body are blimmin' amazing!

mildred1978

I've been boycotting Nestl! for more than half my life.

Not the place for a debate really, but would the parents be able to support the "1.5 million babies" that breastfeeding would "save" every year?

mildred1978

MrsW82 wrote: »

""I would have thought that the attitude to birth control by certain religions contributes even more to the suffering of the babies being brought into the world.""

(sorry - unsure how to quote in my reply)

Press the "quote" button

MrsW82 wrote: »

While a mother is breastfeeding exclusively, it acts as a method of contraception - her body realising it is sustaining one baby, therefore doesn't release eggs to create any more!
*Just* one more reason breatfeeding, and the human body are blimmin' amazing!

Not actually true for all women, which is a) how many unexpected siblings come along and b) why the NHS harrange new mothers post-partum about contraception. You cannot rely on breastfeeding to prevent further pregnancies.

(and for those who don't ovulate during breastfeeding, this only happens where 5 or more full feeds are being taken per day)

thenudeone

mildred1978 wrote: »

I've been boycotting Nestl! for more than half my life.

Glad to hear it.

mildred1978 wrote: »

Not the place for a debate really, but would the parents be able to support the "1.5 million babies" that breastfeeding would "save" every year?

You've started the debate now.

Although in the developing world families are usually much larger than in richer countries, families don't usually keep producing children indefinitely during their fertile years.
Family size is usually limited to an optimum number which balances the risk of some of the children dying in infancy, the cost of feeding the children in early childhood (when they can't contribute), and the need to have enough children to support their parents in old age, where there is no pension provision. So a significant improvement in babies' life chances would probably lead to a reduction in the number of births, as families adjusted to the lower risk factors.

Quite apart from the human suffering involved when a child dies (for the child and the family), it's also ecologically bad, because the resources used to get the child to that stage in life are wasted.

So from a utilitarian / sustainability point of view, as well as a humanitarian point of view, it's better to have smaller families with a lower infant mortality rate, which more breastfeeding can help to achieve, and which, in my opinion, Nestle (among others) is resisting.

antrobus

MrsW82 wrote: »

Sorry if I'm putting this in the wrong place, but can anyone give me the details of a site that lists the supermarkets that use Nestle products as their "Own brand" products please?

Its all in the name of avoiding evil evil nestle! Thanks!

What makes you think that Nestle supply any supermarket with own brand products?