Had a bad experience yesterday

rev_henry

custardy wrote: »

like developing precognition?

The post is a bit ambiguous but the way I read it the two lads were coming onto michmar's road from a sideroad, therefore michmar had right of way and they should have looked and stopped.

nickj_2

i would imagine that most drivers have had a lapse in concentration and have made a mistake or an error of judgement , but i guess it's how you react that counts , you reacted in time . if i was a cyclist then i would assume that every car at a junction has the potential to pull out in front of you ,

Norman_Castle

I did kind of expect to be berated by the 'mse perfect drivers club!' They must all be out and about being perfect!

I've learnt to be careful by making mistakes. Thanks for being concerned for the cyclist.

tyllwyd

Isn't this a case of an incredibly dangerous junction? It leaves someone who wants to join the road in the position of having to look at two different lanes at the same time with cars/cyclists going at very different speeds - I can easily see that if you are looking at cars moving past at a certain speed, it must be very difficult to also see a much smaller vehicle which is approaching much more quickly. If the cyclist was in the middle of the traffic, you would be looking at one stream of traffic all moving at the same speed and it would be much easier to see that there was a bike inbetween the cars.

marywooyeah

mick_vandick wrote: »

Same thing happened to me on my first test when stuck behind a dustbin truck. Was flashed by a car patiently waiting for me to go, didn't move as knew was not supposed to, finally went as we were all just sitting there and failed because of it...

yeah but if you'd have obeyed third party instructions you would have failed too - thats the bad thing about the tests, sometimes if something like that happens you fail either way its really unfair.

custardy

tyllwyd wrote: »

Isn't this a case of an incredibly dangerous junction? It leaves someone who wants to join the road in the position of having to look at two different lanes at the same time with cars/cyclists going at very different speeds - I can easily see that if you are looking at cars moving past at a certain speed, it must be very difficult to also see a much smaller vehicle which is approaching much more quickly. If the cyclist was in the middle of the traffic, you would be looking at one stream of traffic all moving at the same speed and it would be much easier to see that there was a bike inbetween the cars.

so no point in taking the bike then?

tyllwyd

custardy wrote: »

so no point in taking the bike then?

Well, the cyclist would still get from a to b in an environmentally friendly manner but with much less chance of being involved in a collision with a car pulling out from a junction due to poor visibility.

custardy

tyllwyd wrote: »

Well, the cyclist would still get from a to b in an environmentally friendly manner but with much less chance of being involved in a collision with a car pulling out from a junction due to poor visibility.

yeah,I mean it would be crazy to encourage cycling and expect poor poor drivers ot watch where they are going?
far better to put the onus on the cyclist
i think the term you want is hit by a car
involved in a collision makes it sound much more amiable

tyllwyd

custardy wrote: »

yeah,I mean it would be crazy to encourage cycling and expect poor poor drivers ot watch where they are going?
far better to put the onus on the cyclist
i think the term you want is hit by a car
involved in a collision makes it sound much more amiable

I never said the cyclist was wrong. I said having a junction where a car driver has to try to look for two different things at the same time - cars moving at one speed and a much smaller cyclist moving at a faster speed - was dangerous.

custardy

tyllwyd wrote: »

I never said the cyclist was wrong. I said having a junction where a car driver has to try to look for two different things at the same time - cars moving at one speed and a much smaller cyclist moving at a faster speed - was dangerous.

so you have never had to join a road and monitor multiple things at once?
would you simply polugh into a slower moving car on a multiple lane road?
its called observation. it part of the duty of a driver.
a bike is primarily a means of transport.
you seem to thinkthat as long as a cyclist is allowed a small section of road,squeezed inbetween a car/truck then its all good
for some reason you include enviromentially friendly into that.