Web Design Training

bod1467

http://www.csszengarden.com/

Try the different templates. ALL of them use the same HTML code and content, but use different CSS style definitions to yield very different visual appearances.

tombruton87

bod1467 wrote: »

Ask any recognised web design expert (I'm not one, although I'm proficient) and they'll likely disagree with you.

That's not to say it's bad - just not as good nowadays as it doesn't really set the right ground rules for effective website design.

If you disagree then we'll just have to leave it there.

You do realise w3schools is run by the organisation who decide on the web standards and everything on there site is correct syntax and validates corrrectly. This is what a begginer needs. Also no its not out of date it has all the latest html5 and related technologies on there.

At the end of the day w3 decide the standards which all the web browsers are complying with even microsoft thank the lord. Ok he will run into problems as soon as he hits ie6/7/8 but anybody with any sence devs in firefox or chrome, then just add styles just for ie to correct it. the html5 boiler plate is a usefull tool

BlueC

CodeAcademy (of yearofcode fame) is a good starting point for the very basics of web development:

http://www.codecademy.com/languages/web/topics/html-overview

However, the post title is Web "Design" Training which is totally different from Web "Development". That said, its no use learning how to design without understanding the fundamentals of development. I highly recommend the code academy course for the basics, and w3schools.com is still a good resource albeit not as good as it once was.

Good luck. Web development is really fun!

BlueC

tombruton87 wrote: »

You do realise w3schools is run by the organisation who decide on the web standards

This is a common misconception. W3Schools is nothing whatsoever to do with the W3C.

"W3Schools.com is not affiliated with the W3C in any way. Members of the W3C have asked W3Schools to explicitly disavow any connection in the past, and they have refused to do so."

See here for more: http://w3fools.com/

That said, I think that site is a little unfair on w3schools because it IS still a good and useful resource. It does list some other, arguably more reputable resources, that you could learn from (http://w3fools.com/#what-should-be-done). However, they weaken their argument by recommending sitepoint, which I personally find terrible.

tombruton87

ah I have been owned. Yea just done some research. the gooogle stuff is good dont really know about the rest. If there is somthing I want to learn to do I normally google it look at the 1st result and figure it out. also look at best practices for acheiving it

tombruton87

that 23fools is saying how things in w3schools are incorrect and it is write but then giving incorrect info themselfs

special_farces

I've been working on site design and development for 12 years.

Books : I particularly like the Visual QuickStart series by Peachpit Press. They cover specific applications, and the languages/code you will need to learn.

Sites : If you have some money to spend, look at lynda.com
Its full of good quality video tutorials and content. For a free introduction, go to the source at w3.org

Skills : don't be phased by all the stuff you *might* have to learn. Get a good foundation in (x)html and css. Then look at javascript (not to be confused with Java). After that you can think about development with languages such as PHP or Perl (and dozens of others!). Or concentrate on interface design using tools from a wide number of companies, including Serif and Adobe. And I'm no flag waver for Adobe, but Dreamweaver is a core tool in most studios, and Edge and Muse may become important tools when released.

steve1980

tombruton87 wrote: »

that 23fools is saying how things in w3schools are incorrect and it is write but then giving incorrect info themselfs

Think you mean right and themselves....