Driving & rest breaks question

kevin0410

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

In order to take advantage of the relatively recent 15 minutes during the first 6 hours allowance, the 15 minute break MUST be completed before 6 hours elapses from start time or it will need to be a 30 minute break...the next break which must be 30 minutes must be completed before a total of 9 hours passes.
(if you started break at 5hr 20 mins the break would need to be 30 minutes)

The next break only needs to be 15 minutes, but must be taken before 6 hours continuous working time elapses. if working time exceeds 9 hours, another break needs to be taken to bring total daily breaks to 45 minutes

If you started a break at 5h 20mins, it only needs to be 15 mins.
Even if you started the break at 5h 59mins, it only needs to be 15 mins

Lots of people say the CPC is a waste of time. There's two good adverts FOR it on this thread alone!



EDIT: Paradigm beat me to it!

gilbert_and_sullivan

Fortunately neither of you will be training any poor unfortunates as neither of you can read my post properly.

Paradigm's post neatly reiterates what i posted, but if newby's were to take too much notice of his they will likely as not fail to put in a 30 minute break, which in most working days will see them infringed, as they will most likely go over the 4.5 hour drive.

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Not if it was taken before the end of 6 hours work...if working over 6 hours (up to 9) then another break would have to be taken.''

That what i said, read the post.

Kevin can't read his own first properly either.

kevin0410 wrote: »

sorry, but you're wrong.
Either that or the tachographs on our fleet are all faulty, as i never get infringements and only have 15 mins break during the first 8 hours!

Beg pardon, your second post.


Do either of you drive or administer HGV's professionally?, if so it might be advisable to seek other forms of employment.

Paradigm

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

Paradigm's post neatly reiterates what i posted, but if newby's were to take too much notice of his they will likely as not fail to put in a 30 minute break, which in most working days will see them infringed, as they will most likely go over the 4.5 hour drive.

But I'm not referring to EU tacho rules/driving hours, purely the RTD/WTD regs. It's quite easy to get nowhere near 4.5 hours driving but still require breaks under RTD/WTD (mixer driving for example)
Seems like you are confusing the two.

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

Do either of you drive or administer HGV's professionally?

Nope but it looks like I should be

gilbert_and_sullivan

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Nope but it looks like I should be [/QUOTE]

No, stick with what you do now, trust me on that....:p

Paradigm

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

No, stick with what you do now, trust me on that....:p

Shame! Just when I thought I had a whole new career open up....

Just one question.... do you actually administer LGVs professionally?

gilbert_and_sullivan

Paradigm wrote: »

Just one question.... do you actually administer LGVs professionally?

No, turned down a few offers don't like being inside, been driving them (badly) 35 years though..:)

Paradigm

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

No, turned down a few offers

A wise move

kevin0410

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

Paradigm's post neatly reiterates what i posted

No it doesn't. It completely pulls apart your post, as does my post

Paradigm

kevin0410 wrote: »

No it doesn't. It completely pulls apart your post, as does my post

Fancy a challenge ?

What's wrong with this.....

The missing hours can be compensated by either adding to the daily rest period or a weekly rest period. For example, if he only works 9hrs a day and has 15hrs off then 4hrs a day would go towards compensating for the missing 21hrs unless he wanted to treat some days as reduced daily rest in which case on those days he would compensate 6hrs. If he finishes work on Friday at 5pm and then starts again on Monday at 8am he would have had 63hrs off so there would be 18hrs reclaimed there.

Nine_Lives

First off, thanks for the replies. The very first reply has burnt me out. It's like one of those lateral thinking puzzles. :rotfl:I'm about to hit the sack as i'm at work early in the morning, so tomorrow i'll need to re-read it & then read all other replies as i've not got round to reading them yet...

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Another thing concerns me, actually two.
1) When did he pass his car test because he won't have Category C1 for 7.5t on his licence if it was after 1/1/1997
2) If he has recently got Cat C1 on his licence, has he done a DCPC because without one he cannot be employed as a driver on any vehicle heavier than a 3.5t van.

...but to answer the above:

1) He passed his car test October 2010 when he was 18. He took his test & can now drive rigid body up to 18ton (whatever category that is). He passed this test late last year i think it was. If not late last year (& by late i mean final 3 months) then certainly very early this year.
For anyone who says you can't do this (or rather he can't do this), then apparently he can. He's a trainee mechanic here. I questioned him being put through this test as i didn't think he qualified due to his age & time driving, but i was told that he does qualify. I can't remember exactly how they said he qualifies now, but "driver-in-training" springs to mind.
He's currently going out on the road with another driver riding with him. I don't know when he'll be let loose on his own.

2) DCPC?? I don't know what that is. I know he's passed his theory & practical & that he says that isn't the end of it - there's still more elements to pass, which sounds stupid to me as surely your practical (like with the car) should be the final test.