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Council Tax Bill in arrears - Not our debt? It's complicated
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DannyboyMidlands wrote: »Ok so you pay your rent in cash and have no contract but does the landlady have any kind of bond/deposit from you guys?
What details does she have in terms of names, addresses etc?
If possible you should all move out and not pay the bill. The council are writing to "The Occupier" so obviously don't have your details. Why stick your head above the parapet if you don't have to?
The only things she has is maybe my phone number. In regards to bond, the bond is just given to the tenant moving out by the new tenant moving in.
It turns out that this house owes 3550 quid!!!
I think the LL has no wish to tell us or the council where she lives. it's jsut all so fishy that she comes round to collect the rent.0 -
Do you even know her name?
Do you know if she even owns the property?
She could be sub-letting for all you know.If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0 -
Hopefullythe landladys details will be on the land registrydocuments for the house (althouhg she may only have herself living at the address). The council will catch up with her eventually (as will the mortgage company etc).
I still do not think you are responsible for the council tax.
The bond may be more of a problem for you as you are relying on the person moving in to repay it.
dfMaking my money go further with MSE :j
How much can I save in 2012 challenge
75/1200 :eek:0 -
Do you even know her name?
Do you know if she even owns the property?
She could be sub-letting for all you know.
Yeah we know her first name.
We don't know that she owns the property and that was one of the suspicions. BUT she did fix up the bathroom and repair the kitchen roof, replace the oven and washing machine...
Possibly she is getting a better mortgage rate by having a personal mortgage..0 -
dancingfairy wrote: »Hopefullythe landladys details will be on the land registrydocuments for the house (althouhg she may only have herself living at the address). The council will catch up with her eventually (as will the mortgage company etc).
I still do not think you are responsible for the council tax.
The bond may be more of a problem for you as you are relying on the person moving in to repay it.
df
Any way of finding out if we are responsible?0 -
It doesn't matter if you are responsible or not if the council don't know your names or that you ever lived there.
All 4 of you should move out, exchange deposits with a new group and think nothing more about it.0 -
It doesn't matter if you are responsible or not if the council don't know your names or that you ever lived there.
Easy way for the council to solve that is to bill the landlord in the absence of any other details - the landlord will sharp provide the relevant details.I would write to the council and explain the living set up - ie how you all do/don't know each other, the fact that you have no choice in new housemates etc, the fact you all moved in and believe you have seperate tenancies etc and therefore you don't think you are resonsible for the council tax.
The property does sound like a HMO from what has been posted however the OP needs to speak with the council in more depth regarding the determination.I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.0 -
Easy way for the council to solve that is to bill the landlord in the absence of any other details - the landlord will sharp provide the relevant details.QUOTE]
Which details? They pay in cash, there is no contract, deposits are exchanged between tenants, the landlord "maybe" has the OP's phone number and they'll be long gone by the time the council bother to do anything further.
Being a HMO, it's probably not OP's to pay anyway, so why get sucked into it when they could just keep their heads down?0
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