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homelessskilledworker

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Will people be able to afford the cost though?

Many great inventions are unaffordable at a commercial level. Concorde being a prime example.


I've been to many seedling venture capital raising events. ( Like a Dragons Den). Where the presented concepts fall down on economic return.

Cost will not even be an issue at some point in the not too distant future, it will be a "have to" scenario.
The leap from one type of energy to another is just mind boggling, but once we do it there will be revolution like we have never seen before.
When the day comes that we have abundant and never ending supplies of energy, the shortage of food for example will be a thing of the past, as long as the political will is there. Food after all is just another energy source.

Thrugelmir

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

the shortage of food for example will be a thing of the past, as long as the political will is there.

The UK has been a net importer of food since pre WW2. So will need a pretty radical solution. Such as requiring home owners to dig up patios and have veg plots instead.

Thrugelmir

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

it will be a "have to" scenario.

Or a do without.

The increase in electricity usage is down to an over 500% increase for consumer electronics in the past 40 years. At a point cost will cause people to make a choice.

homelessskilledworker

spadoosh wrote: »

An optimist ... i like it!

The problem with the sun and energy is that we cant get to it, never mind harness it. The renewable energies though moving on are still way behind generating the power we need, never mind the infastrucutre that needs to be put in place.

Cold fusion i think your clutching at straws with, were closer to having flying cars. They cant even replicate it in a lab consistently never mind have nuclear stations for it.

With regards to this nuclear energy was supposed to be the 'renewable energy' for all though it looks like this is becoming more and more lilely to fall by the way side as it costs to much never mind the stigmas attatched.

I do agree the internet has moved us forward a long way. People power seems to be taking over just need to look at all the protests worldwide from social networking this is happening. Plus it seems to have created the majority of the population into genius', or at least know it alls, or at least the term i like to use 'googler's'

I was watching a programme presented by that new hip professor who used to be in a band, sorry but forgot his name.
It was all about cold fusion technology, all the top guys who are experts in this field gave cold fusion between 20 to 50 years before it would be here.

Renewables IMO are just going backwards, having Photo Voltaic systems that turn 12v into 240v through an invertor is like going back to the Victorian ages.
We should not be going backwards with our power consumption but should be using far more, using low wattage age lamps that take 20 minutes to warm up in the 21st century is just madness.

There was also an article I was reading which was about this stuff called Helium 5, a shopping bag of this stuff would supply the planet for a year, only trouble is this stuff is on the moon (-:
I think when the time comes when we start moving over will be the most exciting in our evolution.

kabayiri

I'm struggling with this notion of technology advancement and an automatic link to the well being of all.

Suppose tomorrow Lord Sugar's apprentice invents the first viable I-Robot.

It's autonomous capability and non-stop appetite for work means it can do a whole host of tasks currently reserved for normal working folk.

Why wouldn't Lord Sugar push for millions of these 'droids' to be made in China, to keep unit costs down ? A cheap price means commercial success, and shortly we see loads of these droids serving in restaurants; cleaning our windows; etc.

Lord Sugar's company becomes extremely wealth indeed, but how does this translate into more income for the displaced English workers ?

I'm struggling to see it.

homelessskilledworker

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The UK has been a net importer of food since pre WW2. So will need a pretty radical solution. Such as requiring home owners to dig up patios and have veg plots instead.

But if you had an endless supply of clean energy you would have all the food you could ever want. You would need a smaller area, water could be pumped to where you need it, you would have all the light(IF and UV light) you need, and transport and storage would not be a concern.

spadoosh

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

Cost will not even be an issue at some point in the not too distant future, it will be a "have to" scenario.
The leap from one type of energy to another is just mind boggling, but once we do it there will be revolution like we have never seen before.
When the day comes that we have abundant and never ending supplies of energy, the shortage of food for example will be a thing of the past, as long as the political will is there. Food after all is just another energy source.

All well and good but your forgetting something.... greed. Ther emight be something that could make unlimited and free energy, will the people (and i mean all the people) ever see this. Your more optimistic than i though.

It could be done now if people with money were willing to pay for it but then theyd have no power over people.

My suggestion turn the majority of africa into a giant solar panel and ireland into a wind farm... problem solved

Thrugelmir

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

water could be pumped to where you need it,

In many areas water is already serious issue. So where's this resource going to be pumped from.

spadoosh

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

I was watching a programme presented by that new hip professor who used to be in a band, sorry but forgot his name.
It was all about cold fusion technology, all the top guys who are experts in this field gave cold fusion between 20 to 50 years before it would be here.
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The experts in cold fusion cant get there papers published in scientific journals because it essentially goes against the laws of physics !!!!!! and there a laughing stock in the scientific community. There 'experts' is not a reason to believe its possible. its been researched since the lates 80's and we're exactly nowhere different from what we knew then they have spent 20+ years working on it and still cant consistently replicate it in a lab. Cold fusion isnt happening, antimatter engines are more realistic.

homelessskilledworker

kabayiri wrote: »

I'm struggling with this notion of technology advancement and an automatic link to the well being of all.

Suppose tomorrow Lord Sugar's apprentice invents the first viable I-Robot.

It's autonomous capability and non-stop appetite for work means it can do a whole host of tasks currently reserved for normal working folk.

Why wouldn't Lord Sugar push for millions of these 'droids' to be made in China, to keep unit costs down ? A cheap price means commercial success, and shortly we see loads of these droids serving in restaurants; cleaning our windows; etc.

Lord Sugar's company becomes extremely wealth indeed, but how does this translate into more income for the displaced English workers ?

I'm struggling to see it.

For a start it is not going to happen:)

The problem with trying to have the type of conversation with which you are looking for answers to the type of question you ask is that maybe we need "another way".
A different type of politics or way of thinking from the way we think today.

Us/we in the UK basically live the same robotic type of life that our neighbour lives, bills, work, little play, mortgage, buy stuff, and we think thats the way it has allways been.

I think at some point there will be some kind of revolution, todays captitalist system works on the basis of us buying "stuff" and robotic manufactured politicians pretending to control things.