Education really mucked up.(Nurses, Medics, teachers, graduates, PHDs),

studentphil

in dt now if anyone has any views.

DrFluffy

We haven't trained too many medics as such - the Government has pulled job numbers AFTER enrolling students (which I do believe is the same with the other professions you cite too).

All in all there will be an absolute LACK of these professions, just not a 'real' one as there are no actual jobs to go to!

DrFluffy

studentphil wrote:

The lack of Junior doctors jobs is a big issue now so that is another issue the govnt have mucked up.

There are jobs - they are just dead end jobs with no career prospects. They do not come with the all important 'training number' needed to progress up the career ladder. Doctors on the cheap so to speak. Unsurprisingly, not many people want these jobs, and are chosing to leave medicine or take their skills to countries where they are welcomed instead...

sadiedoll

Bit of a generalisation there.....as has been mentioned by previous posters, there are still massive shortages of teachers in some secondary subjects, high turnover of staff (30% of NQTs leave the profession within 3 years) and a large proportion of the profession are due for retirement within the next 10 years.

As a Head of Department in a Secondary (shortage subject), I have found it very difficult to recruit in the past 2 years. The field of candidates is either very small (or none) or of a low quality i.e. unqualified applicants. I know of Heads of Department jobs with a generous management allowance that have been advertised 3 or 4 times this academic year already to no response.

Blacksheep1979

Its also possibly due to the dilution of what can be called a degree - these days almost anything can. Now I'm not trying to slate people who actually go out and work and get a practical degree based in something real from a college/uni that make you work but more along the lines of

'Hi, I've got a 2:1 in information systems.'

Now that sounds great - but it could mean the person in question wrote a nice excel spreadsheet for their dissertation or they hand coded their own server side application in Java.

studentphil

Blacksheep1979 wrote:

Its also possibly due to the dilution of what can be called a degree - these days almost anything can. Now I'm not trying to slate people who actually go out and work and get a practical degree based in something real from a college/uni that make you work but more along the lines of

'Hi, I've got a 2:1 in information systems.'

Now that sounds great - but it could mean the person in question wrote a nice excel spreadsheet for their dissertation or they hand coded their own server side application in Java.

But are business and IT just the skills we need?

studentphil

DrFluffy wrote:

There are jobs - they are just dead end jobs with no career prospects. They do not come with the all important 'training number' needed to progress up the career ladder. Doctors on the cheap so to speak. Unsurprisingly, not many people want these jobs, and are chosing to leave medicine or take their skills to countries where they are welcomed instead...

What does the govnt not want on the cheap?

Everything in education and higher education and the NHS seems to have been mucked up by Labour. :mad: :mad: :mad: