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Drivers may need to pay £288pa tax to park car at work
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If that's the best you've got to offer then there's little point in sharing. We're already paying for the pensions whether we like it or not, the pay rises are nigh upon universally frozen and council budgets are as well.
In my experience the overlap between people who think the government are completely wasteful and people who would have a hissy fit if they lose 10p in services or benefits is around 100%.
Evidence of government waste is all around us. On a recent major roadworks near me, 'watchmen' were stationed in cars 24 hours a day, in shifts, at either end of a road closed so that work could be undertaken.
Their pay? Including overtime, a reported £2,000 a week each.
Can this be an accurate figure? Very probably. The story was unearthed by a local businessmen who provided site premises during the operation and who additionally provided ad hoc catering facilities.
I'm waiting for a chance to sit down with him and find out what other scams were being operated.0 -
Evidence of government waste is all around us. On a recent major roadworks near me, 'watchmen' were stationed in cars 24 hours a day, in shifts, at either end of a road closed so that work could be undertaken.
Their pay? Including overtime, a reported £2,000 a week each.
Can this be an accurate figure? Very probably. The story was unearthed by a local businessmen who provided site premises during the operation and who additionally provided ad hoc catering facilities.
I'm waiting for a chance to sit down with him and find out what other scams were being operated.
Story doesn't surprise me.
Had to dump some rubbish for my mother in her city. Several tips that open in rotation 4/5 days out of seven. Yet you turn up at the one that is open and it is manned twice over.
I would love to be given the chance to go into my local council - I am convinced I could repay a nice salary very quickly in process/service improvements and efficiencies but no doubt they would have to be passed by committees of people unable to make a decision."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
vivatifosi wrote: »From the Daily Mail. I'm going to post link and run with this and the other thread I'm starting as need to go to work, so over to you to dissect and discuss. I seem to remember this was also mooted a couple of years back, so not a new idea.
Scheme is starting in Nottingham:
What happens if everyone just says no I'm not paying it?Debt
Barclaycard (0% for 29 months) = £2500
Barclaycard (0% until September 14) =£476.93
Barclaycard (0% until October 14) = £390.82
Barclaycard (0% until May 16) = £105.58
TOTAL DEBT = 10364 (aim to clear June 16)0 -
What happens if everyone just says no I'm not paying it?
It is levied on the employer not the employee.
It is up to the employer to decide how it is passed on.
The only way the employer can avoid it, I guess, is to sell the land or make it unusable in some way, planting a shrubbery maybe?
As it is essentially a tax in a similar way to "Business Rates" presumably the employer would be pursued through the courts in a similar way.
Interestingly if they did plant shrubberies everywhere no doubt the public transport system would collapse under the demand. The local council couldn't afford for the shrubberies to be planted en masse."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
How will you water all that shrubbery during the hosepipe ban?0
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If that's the best you've got to offer then there's little point in sharing. We're already paying for the pensions whether we like it or not, the pay rises are nigh upon universally frozen and council budgets are as well.
In my experience the overlap between people who think the government are completely wasteful and people who would have a hissy fit if they lose 10p in services or benefits is around 100%.
Really? in my experience the people that moan about high taxes are exactly the ones who are delighted by government cuts. The people that believe governent is too big and wasteful.
It's a game they play - they link a new tax to a benefit that most people wont disagree with - in this case public transport.
But then what happens is that it gets soaked up in the general taxation pot (think NI, car tax etc)and spunked on whatever the government of the day think might buy them a few votes.
Once they've taken it, you never get it back. In the last 10 years government spending has increased by 50% in real terms - have services got 50% better? were things really that bad 10 years ago?
What have you got to offer thats so much better then? Cheering on new taxes till you realise you have to money left?0 -
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heathcote123 wrote: »
Once they've taken it, you never get it back. In the last 10 years government spending has increased by 50% in real terms - have services got 50% better? were things really that bad 10 years ago?
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Read somewhere that the trouble is that Government discretionary spend -the money it does pay for our services is steady/falling. The amount spent on "benefits" is the bit that is out of control and they can, in reality , do little about in a civilised society. Thus services get worse."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
This tax is styled as an anti-congestion measure for a list of major cities. So there ought to be a legal duty on those city authorities to prove there is congestion on the routes to the affected workplaces. Does that duty exist? I can see some legal challenges coming up.0
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heathcote123 wrote: »Really? in my experience the people that moan about high taxes are exactly the ones who are delighted by government cuts. The people that believe governent is too big and wasteful.
They're delighted when other people's benefits are cut. That's why you've got pensioners complaining about losing their own tax allowances, higher tax payers moaning about losing child benefit etc. It's why you get people complaining about fortnightly bin collections and then complaining about council tax back to back. It's NIMBYs who don't want new houses in their village but whinge about their kids not be able to afford to buy a house there.
I'm not intending to debate the cost effectiveness of government. I happen to think there are many issues there and that they could spend more efficiently. However cutting spending or raising taxes, the biggest steps to balancing our books, always hurts the government because someone always loses out.Having a signature removed for mentioning the removal of a previous signature. Blackwhite bellyfeel double plus good...0
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