Drivers may need to pay £288pa tax to park car at work

grizzly1911

heathcote123 wrote: »

How does that seem fair?

If you walk into a shop and get charged £1.00 for a can of coke, and the next guy gets charged 50p, and the guys after that £3.00 is that 'fair'? How about the council head that pays themselves 8k in wages and 150k in dividends. What rate do they pay?

Is fair value determined by peoples wages?

If everything was calculated like that, there would be no benefit in working harder.

If you need employees who get paid varying rates of pay to operate from your site and do not have a truly alternative way of getting there then you need to make it affordable. In hospitals you have people on the NMW up to consultants. for instance.

As this is a TAX why shouldn't it be linked to pay.

Whether you purchase a Coke is discretionary and you can shop around.

grizzly1911

heathcote123 wrote: »

Now, has anyone checked whether Nottingham councils employees have managed to exempt themselves from it?

I live (not work) in a very small town. It benefits from free parking which helps keeps it alive.

the local authority wants to introduce car parking charges but has been thwarted on more than one occasion. It has levied chargesin other towns under it's control.

Same council has a principal office in our town with plenty of staff car parking attached. Funnily enough this car parking does remain, would have remained free under the proposals.

StevieJ

£288 to park, apparently still cheaper then the bus, here is a comparison and they haven't skimped on the car costs ( Maintenance £995 :eek:).

A friend of mine has moved in with his girlfriend, 20 miles away from his office. He currently commutes using public transport, but feels it’s costing him a fortune. So he's come up with an idea; buy an old car to drive to work every day.

Could buying a cheap car for the commute save him some cash?

My mind was made up immediately – public transport all the way. How could a few train and bus fares come close to the vast cost of buying, insuring, taxing, maintaining and fuelling a car?

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/car-vs-public-transport--an-old-banger-is-cheaper-than-the-bus-.html

chewmylegoff

StevieJ wrote: »

£288 to park, apparently still cheaper then the bus, here is a comparison and they haven't skimped on the car costs ( Maintenance £995 :eek:).
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/car-vs-public-transport--an-old-banger-is-cheaper-than-the-bus-.html

paying £995 to maintain a car that cost £850? i think i'd just throw it away and buy a new one if it broke down. i'm quite suspicious of the public transport costs to be honest, but since they don't disclose where it is, it is impossible to analyse it.

grizzly1911

StevieJ wrote: »

£288 to park, apparently still cheaper then the bus, here is a comparison and they haven't skimped on the car costs ( Maintenance £995 :eek:).
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/car-vs-public-transport--an-old-banger-is-cheaper-than-the-bus-.html

Interesting article even allowing for the generous "costs" associated with the car

Public transport pricing is a nonsense non mores o than on trains. Recently my brother tried to shuttle home across the West Midlands on main line routes by train 70 miles each way to save using his car one evening. On internet (night before) was quoted £10 each way, went to station on day of travel was quoted £35 return even using day saver integrated transport tickets (would have needed two days worth).

Appreciate this would have been "an advance ticket sale" from the internet but he would have stood up in exactly the same place however he purchased the ticket.

Used the car instead and saved on three hours of his life into the bargain.

StevieJ

chewmylegoff wrote: »

paying £995 to maintain a car that cost £850? i think i'd just throw it away and buy a new one if it broke down. i'm quite suspicious of the public transport costs to be honest, but since they don't disclose where it is, it is impossible to analyse it.

Costs me £2 on the bus to travel somewhere that I can walk to in 20 minutes, in addition you can almost beat the bus fare with a taxi ride with two passengers, there is something wrong somewhere.

mardycow

heathcote123 wrote: »

Next it will be a tax on having the use of a kettle at work. It's almost like they're trying to discourage working altogether.

There is no justifaction for new taxes, we already have plenty. Anyone supporting this is facepalmingly dim.

Council jobsworths should be sacking themselves rather than looking at new ways to skin the people that pay for it all.

Now, has anyone checked whether Nottingham councils employees have managed to exempt themselves from it?

I work for nottm city and i can confirm am not exempt despite being disabled and working nights

Jimmy_31

heathcote123 wrote: »

Next it will be a tax on having the use of a kettle at work. It's almost like they're trying to discourage working altogether.

There is no justifaction for new taxes, we already have plenty. Anyone supporting this is facepalmingly dim.

Council jobsworths should be sacking themselves rather than looking at new ways to skin the people that pay for it all.

Now, has anyone checked whether Nottingham councils employees have managed to exempt themselves from it?

Good post.

It seems the vast majority of the population of this country have forgotten how to say fcuk off.

The government are turning them into robots and they cant even see it.

N1AK

heathcote123 wrote: »

and most definitely not get swallowed up by council bloat, pay rises and pensions.

If that's the best you've got to offer then there's little point in sharing. We're already paying for the pensions whether we like it or not, the pay rises are nigh upon universally frozen and council budgets are as well.

In my experience the overlap between people who think the government are completely wasteful and people who would have a hissy fit if they lose 10p in services or benefits is around 100%.

dori2o

N1AK wrote: »

If the government/council/whomever is going to generate income via tax then this is about as good a method as any. It makes public transport a comparitively better option which may help increase use and decrease pollution. Sounds like a better idea than increasing council tax to raise the same amount.

Not when government subsidies are being removed from public transport.

If the UK/Local Govt want to reduce the number of cars in their cities/towns, they need to provide a cheap and reliable public transport service.

I recently looked into 4 of us going to the harry potter studio tour.

For same day return tickets, 2 adults 2 children it was nearly £400:eek::eek::eek: from Manchester. Unless we wanted to get a train back from Watford Junction after 8pm which included a change at Birmingham, arriving home at almost midnight.

I'm all for using public transport if at all possible, and if I could I would myself. But the prices charged in this country are dispicable.

The US and the likes of China and Japan have excellent public transport links, all run for a fraction of the price of ours.