Council Tax Benefit - ?????

Eager_Elephant

I was also a bit confused about the request to sign an authority allowing them to discuss your claims with DWP/Pension Service as all Local Authoritys have access to he DWP system which has all your benefits on.

Local Authoritys ca ring up to discuss peoples claims anyway.

You said above that you cancelled your claim for Pension Credit but did you actually receive a letter stating that the claim was cancelled. I wonder if they suspended your claim for PC in case you become eligible again and therefore this is still showing as an income?

Alternatively do you think you owe DWP any money from the past such as for a crisis loan, social fund loan or overpayment?Sometimes they will take the full amount of PC off you (as you have other income) to pay a debt back and so this is still classed as income even though you don't receive it.

Other than this I suggest you go to the council and sit there until someone sees you.

fogartyblue.

fluffymovie wrote: »

I'm well aware that guaranteed pension credit would mean 100% subject to non dep deductions but you didn't state what type of Pension Credit hence my comment.

I don't get any type of Pension Credit, never have done. Yes I made claims, but they were either stopped or cancelled.

They absolutely should break down the unearned income for you but perhaps if you were to talk to them like they're human beings instead of the anger you are displaying here, they might do it sooner. I'm sure you're frustrated and I can understand why but if they think speaking to the Pension Service will help why don't you just let them? Your rights are inalienable but you are demanding things but then refusing to enable them to do what they think appropriate.
In my authority, our declaration says we can share and obtain info from the pension service anyway so not sure why they feel they need to ask especially?

Yes I am fully aware of the relationship between the council and the Pension Service/DWP.

Here, I'll just give you what the letter says that they are asking me to sign.

" I Mr............... of .............. national insurance number....... give the Pension Service permission to provide details, evidence and copies of all of my Pension Credit claims(s) and entitlement to .....District Council.


signature.......
Date........."


Now why on earth do they want that level of info?
The Pension Service have told the council that what info they have supplied is all that they are required to divulge.
Any further information etc cannot be disclosed without the prior permission of Mr............

I have rights and privilidges under the Date Protection Act.
I do not see why I have to sign away those rights in order for the council to (a) tell me how they have worked out our income for CTB purposes and (b) why they need all of that information from the PS in the first place.

fogartyblue.

Eager_Elephant wrote: »

I was also a bit confused about the request to sign an authority allowing them to discuss your claims with DWP/Pension Service as all Local Authoritys have access to he DWP system which has all your benefits on.

Local Authoritys ca ring up to discuss peoples claims anyway.

That is what I was given to undrstand. but I now find that it isn't as open as that. There is only so much that they can divulge. Hence the reason for the letter.

You said above that you cancelled your claim for Pension Credit but did you actually receive a letter stating that the claim was cancelled. I wonder if they suspended your claim for PC in case you become eligible again and therefore this is still showing as an income?

Ah! Yes all of the PC claims were cancelled, some by me and some by the Pension Service. Yes I have all of the evidence that backs this up.
Yes one claim (made Oct 09) was suspended (having received no money at all anyhow!) in Aug 10 and was closed by the Pension Service on the 29/3/11. The closure was made effective as from Aug 10.

Maybe that is the problem.?

Then another claim was made in Jan 11 at the same time as a claim for DLA was made, but they closed it down before the DLA was granted. It should have been the other way round as with DLA comes CA which would have meant that a small amout of GPC would have been paid!
I wanted the PC claim to run side by side of the DLA claim so that they could be linked when DLA was awarded.


Alternatively do you think you owe DWP any money from the past such as for a crisis loan, social fund loan or overpayment?Sometimes they will take the full amount of PC off you (as you have other income) to pay a debt back and so this is still classed as income even though you don't receive it.

No, we don't have any debts at all.

Other than this I suggest you go to the council and sit there until someone sees you.

Done that, saw a lovely girl and she took a copy of some more paperwork I took down, but couldn't help me any further. She suggested that I write in!!

Thanks for those coments.

It does look like that it has something to do with the PC claims.
But I have never been awarded a 1p and never received a 1p!

wellynever

Suck it up and pay what you have to pay,

ps: Welcome back

fogartyblue.

wellynever wrote: »

Suck it up and pay what you have to pay,

ps: Welcome back

That's it, I would if they could tell me exactly how much they want!

I have no problem with that, but when you get varying amounts for the same period, which one do you pay?