bedroom tax

fogartyblue.

Dunroamin wrote: »

A man who currently reaches the women's pension age is eligible for Pension Credit so doesn't need to sign on.

I agree, if he is claiming JSA - Income based he has the option to claim Pension Credit instead - doesn't have to - he can. Many do claim JSA as they are still considered to be available for work.

On JSA - Contribution based he does have to comply with all of the JSA regs until he is 65 if he wants the money.

So by virtue of that, working age is until 65! Otherwise he would be told he CAN'T claim JSA under any circumstances beyond the age that a woman can claim Pension Credit!

The same goes for ESA, that benefit stops at 65, yet from 60 he could choose just like JSA to claim Pension Credit instead.

So it would seem that working age is still 65 for a man and 60 for a woman notwithstanding what Pension Credit regs say.

norfolkshops

just found out to-day from my local housing

it only applies to private tenants

not any housing !!! i.e erimus ect

NoBS_2

getzls wrote: »

NoBS wrote: »

I totally agree Ang.



Now she still lives in a huge three bedroom house alone, never venturing up the stairs except to go to bed, yet there are families who have been waiting five years and upwards for a three bedroomed property in that area.

This will change soon enough i would say. The goverment have already mooted this in public. They will in the future force tenants living in these circumstances to move to smaller properties and i would put my pension on that.

And I totally agree with it. It's a change I agree with :eek:

anguk

norfolkshops wrote: »

just found out to-day from my local housing

it only applies to private tenants

not any housing !!! i.e erimus ect

Why not social housing too? That means you could get a single person living in a 4 bed council house! Seems a bit daft to me if the new rules are only going to apply to private tenants when we've got a massive shortage of suitable social housing in this country.

norfolkshops

anguk wrote: »

Why not social housing too? That means you could get a single person living in a 4 bed council house! Seems a bit daft to me if the new rules are only going to apply to private tenants when we've got a massive shortage of suitable social housing in this country.

she said its something to do with private landlords asking for to much rent,so they are claiming the bedroom tax,hope this helps

SailorSam

If say you're in a 3 bed house what you could do is put your computer in one of the rooms then you can call that a study, then when you're reading the daily paper always sit in one of the other rooms, you can then call that your library. So that leaves you with a 1 bed house.

BigAunty

norfolkshops wrote: »

just found out to-day from my local housing

it only applies to private tenants

not any housing !!! i.e erimus ect

Currently local housing allowance has restrictions on number of bedrooms according to the number, age and sex of occupants - they do not get 'spare' rooms unless they manage to find a larger property than their LHA rate.

The 'bedroom tax' you enquire about for social housing is being introduced in April next year. So do keep your eyes peeled because social housing tenants on housing benefit will be affected a year from now.

BigAunty

fogartyblue. wrote: »

I agree, if he is claiming JSA - Income based he has the option to claim Pension Credit instead - doesn't have to - he can. Many do claim JSA as they are still considered to be available for work.

On JSA - Contribution based he does have to comply with all of the JSA regs until he is 65 if he wants the money.

So by virtue of that, working age is until 65! Otherwise he would be told he CAN'T claim JSA under any circumstances beyond the age that a woman can claim Pension Credit!

The same goes for ESA, that benefit stops at 65, yet from 60 he could choose just like JSA to claim Pension Credit instead.

So it would seem that working age is still 65 for a man and 60 for a woman notwithstanding what Pension Credit regs say.

So, just to clarify, someone can claim Pension Credit ahead of their state retirement age? I wasn't aware of that.

anguk

norfolkshops wrote: »

she said its something to do with private landlords asking for to much rent,so they are claiming the bedroom tax,hope this helps

Fair point but I thought LHA was based on how many bedrooms you needed anyway? There's no doubt there are some very greedy landlords out there who charged high rents just because they knew the state will pay for it but I thought that's why changes were made to LHA, you only get a certain rate depending on age and how many bedrooms you need?

But this still doesn't help the problem of council tenants under-occupying their big houses while families are stuck in one bedroom flats because the waiting lists are so long.

edit: just seen BigAunty's reply, so it will apply to council and local authority tenants then?

BigAunty

norfolkshops wrote: »

she said its something to do with private landlords asking for to much rent,so they are claiming the bedroom tax,hope this helps

That sounds either very poorly explained and/or very poorly understood.

It sounds more like private tenants requesting discretionary housing payment (extra housing benefit above the rate they are entitled to).

There's actually no such thing as bedroom tax, it's just the nickname given to the future social housing benefit reduction for underoccupancy. It's a year away so perhaps some local council housing staff haven't been fully briefed on it as it's so far away from being implemented.