UKPC - Problems

Stephen_Leak

I always wonder if a "You can't leave the site" condition, which seems reasonable to an owner who doesn't want to provide free parking for competitors, contravenes "human rights, freedom of movement", etc.

I'm looking for one that doesn't specify it being on foot and also has a time limit. How do you get out? You can't leave, so you will eventually overstay the limit. Catch-22.

If I ever have to return a frozen item to my local supermarket, I will make sure that I wait the 2 hours before I can re-enter the car park. It should have defrosted by then.

akhui

Everybody parks at the car park and leave the site to go shopping in town centre (5 min walk). We did it many times and we also know people who have done it, and have seen so many people doing it. They certainly can't catch everyone, just me being unlucky today. I had a read at the parking sign and couldn't see anything that warn about not leaving the site, all it says is it is a customer car park.

Stephen_Leak

It wouldn't be the first time a PPC has ticketted a victim for contravening a T&C that wasn't displayed.

Of course, it might have been "on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard".

give_them_FA

I hate to sound like a stuck record. But, if they have tried to charge you for a supposed "breach" that wasn't in the supposed "contract" as displayed on the supposed "notices", then it is harassment time! Yippee! Get and photograph the notices ASAP!

RENEGADE_2

AdamJustin24 wrote: »

got a letter saying I owe them £90 now so I paid it,

AdamJustin24 wrote: »

Then I got another one ignored it, they then sent me a fine for £90 and I paid it.

This is all heart breaking. You owed nothing to anybody but I am glad you have realised now. Lombard's may be difficult to deal with particularly if they are unsure about the scam, and to be honest, I very much doubt a word to one of the administrative staff or a letter to them will cause a radical shake-up. As a business, they aspire to "stay legal" and avoid messy situations so without thinking about much, they go about their business. But they too seem to be on the waggon. Charging you £15, for what?? My recommendation the next time you hire a car from anybody is that you ignore all round. Let the hire company pay the PPC, let them try to bill you with it along with their additonal charges, ignore them all the way and when they try to take you to court for it, they will learn that they never had to even pay the "PCN"; so, they will have made prats of themselves, they will learn that their own "charges" carry no weight and on top of all, THAT will get the ball rolling at the top that PPCs and their activities are unlawful. Write them love letters and this will never happen.

give_them_FA

That's good advice generally renegade except that often you will be required to give a credit card details and the hire company charges that. Then you are in a sticky mess because it is down to you to try and recover the money.

PPCs milk this situation if they deal with an obtuse hire company like this one.

Kite2010

Might be worth checking with the council planning permission if it's a new store and they are trying to charge you for "leaving site" if the shop only got permission if the car-park was for the use of the other local shops than the shop can get a fine from the council for not following planning permission.